Has Greenwald done much journalism since Snowden's revelations? I stopped following him a long time ago as he was using his platform to advocate his own social justice agenda.
My Resignation from the Intercept
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#512It sounds like they wouldn't let him publish an article about the Hunter Biden situation. Why not share details of what he wanted to publish and what they barred and let people make up their own minds? He says in this letter that he will publish it soon on Substack, but that sort of takes the wind out of the sails of his "liberals are censoring me" argument.
It's published: https://greenwald.substack.com/p/article-on-joe-and-hunter-b...
My take: it's a garbage opinion piece that's peddling his own political views a little too hard. I think the Intercept is totally 100% justified in refusing to run it.
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#513Greenwald posted some emails he says are from his editor at the Intercept. [0]
Reading the emails, his editor sounds pretty reasonable. And I think it's ironic that a journalist would cite ethics as his reason for being so hell-bent on publishing an article that does nothing but repeat and amplify unsubstantiated suspicions about a candidate a few days before the election. Greenwald's point-by-point attempt at rebutting his editor supports the editor's perspective, in my opinion. He describes the lack of evidence in a way that conspiratorially suggests that the evidence exists, and his takedown of the bigger media outlets consists of noting that they investigated and ran articles that failed to produce any damning evidence... which is exactly what his article would do, except his article would frame the lack of evidence as evidence of a bigger conspiracy.
I think his faith that there's a story there is exactly what you need in an investigative journalist, and I think stopping him from publishing anyway when he doesn't find it is exactly what he needs in an editor.
[0] https://greenwald.substack.com/p/emails-with-intercept-edito...
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#514"as a last-ditch attempt to avoid being censored, I encouraged them to air their disagreements with me by writing their own articles that critique my perspectives and letting readers decide who is right" That's not how this works. If the editor concludes that it's a garbage story dropped a few days before the election in an attempt to influence the election, you don't run it and then "let the readers decide who is ri…
> "If the editor concludes that it's a garbage story dropped a few days before the election in an attempt to influence the election" This is bordering on hyperbole. 1. Glenn Greenwald isn't one to produce a "Garbage Story," he's a credible journalist with a long history of dropping bombshells. He's dropped bombshells about both the right AND the left. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glenn_Greenwald#Awards 2. It's the j…
edit: never talk politics on HN, how many times must I tell this to myself
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#515Earlier quoted context omitted.
> "If the editor concludes that it's a garbage story dropped a few days before the election in an attempt to influence the election" This is bordering on hyperbole. 1. Glenn Greenwald isn't one to produce a "Garbage Story," he's a credible journalist with a long history of dropping bombshells. He's dropped bombshells about both the right AND the left. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glenn_Greenwald#Awards 2. It's the j…
It’s not about who Greenwald is, it’s about the quality of reporting & the evidence they have to support their claims. You can’t run big stories based on the reputation of the journalist rather than the quality of the reporting. You’re basically suggesting they should get out of the way of Greenwald because he’s a celebrity journalist.
The issue is that we're not privy to the editor and their motives or the strength of Greenwald's evidence. It could very well be that he has a solid story. In this case you have a well known journalist claiming that his editors are censoring him on an important story.
The editors can run the story with a disclaimer outlining their concerns as Greenwald argues.
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#516Serious question, the laptop story... The quote was data recovery from 3 laptops for 85$ ( Apple).
Is that even possible? The quote for 1 laptop for data restore is at minimum 300$/laptop from everywhere I can see.
It's one of the reasons I consider it misinformation by default.
Another reason would be that the FBI already warned for Russian disinformation about the Hunter Biden emails since Burisma got hacked way back in January 2020 ( and they warned the White House in 2019)
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#517Earlier quoted context omitted.
> "If the editor concludes that it's a garbage story dropped a few days before the election in an attempt to influence the election" This is bordering on hyperbole. 1. Glenn Greenwald isn't one to produce a "Garbage Story," he's a credible journalist with a long history of dropping bombshells. He's dropped bombshells about both the right AND the left. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glenn_Greenwald#Awards 2. It's the j…
edit: never talk politics on HN, how many times must I tell this to myself
Edit: Comment removed so removing response, leaving link to the censored article.
https://greenwald.substack.com/p/article-on-joe-and-hunter-b...
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#518Earlier quoted context omitted.
From what I have observed anything even tangentially related the Biden stories gets to the front page quickly and sometimes it sticks there for a few minutes then gets flagged enough to start dropping down the ranks. This one lasted a lot longer on the front page than most have.
So two thoughts here. Are they artificially inflated and then deflated to counter act “bot” behavior? OR are they organically inflated and then censored? I just wish I could be a fly on the wall and know. I just can’t believe this would be a damning enough piece to artificially inflate unless there’s a serious game of reverse psychology going on behind the scenes
I'd bet on bot-busting or possibly something that de-ranks stuff with political keywords close to the election to avoid spam and noise. Human moderation and content curation is a lot rarer than people think online. Primarily because it takes a lot of labor and and response times tend to be slow compared to how fast things go viral.
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#519Earlier quoted context omitted.
> "If the editor concludes that it's a garbage story dropped a few days before the election in an attempt to influence the election" This is bordering on hyperbole. 1. Glenn Greenwald isn't one to produce a "Garbage Story," he's a credible journalist with a long history of dropping bombshells. He's dropped bombshells about both the right AND the left. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glenn_Greenwald#Awards 2. It's the j…
It’s not about who Greenwald is, it’s about the quality of reporting & the evidence they have to support their claims. You can’t run big stories based on the reputation of the journalist rather than the quality of the reporting. You’re basically suggesting they should get out of the way of Greenwald because he’s a celebrity journalist.
My focus on character is in response to OP assuming an article written by a notable author was "garbage," while taking the side of unnamed editors. I focused on a single sentence, and fail how to see this is illogical in the context presented.
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#520Earlier quoted context omitted.
What do you make of the idea that independent journalists on the web being the future?
They are an alternative, but not a substitute for institutional journalism. News exists to give you an approximate representation of what is happening without having to invest too much effort in actual investigation. It is built on trust. If you have to build trust with each individual journalist you follow a la carte, then that makes the entry barrier to following the news much higher.
> It is built on trust. If you have to build trust with each individual journalist you follow a la carte, then that makes the entry barrier to following the news much higher.
While this may be true theoretically, it's already been disproven in practice. People believe almost anything posted on the Internet, whether it is a no-name website or a random tweet that goes viral.