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New York’s budget bill would require “blocking technology” on all 3D printers

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Post by direwolf20 »

mrkstu wrote: post #320
cge wrote: post #314

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> People will re-flash their printers with an open-source firmware that won't do the checks? The text of the bill suggests that it would make printers capable of being reflashed with an open source firmware illegal to sell, as the legal requirements for the blocking would include preventing it from being circumvented. The law would also make having a printer sold mail-order into the state illegal entirely. It’s not c…

There is close to zero chance the current Supreme Court would find a law that criminalizes possession of a file describing the making a gun to be constitutional.

That depends if the defendant votes Republican or Democrat, unfortunately.

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Post by voidUpdate »

zdragnar wrote: post #218
some_random wrote: post #207

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You're welcome to come up with a better litmus test, but it's beyond clear that lawmakers writing gun control regulation have less than a wikipedia level understanding of the topic. See "shoulder thing that goes up", the weird obsession with the Thompson, the entire concept of an Assault Weapon, etc.

Wikipedia has much better information about guns than most of the people talking about them in politics, generally speaking. It's not too surprising, considering the way the rules are written at the ATF. There's basically zero logical thought that goes into pistol vs rifle vs felony: https://www.reddit.com/r/Firearms/comments/a4gnr3/makes_perf... (Sorry for the reddit link, it's a common image but that was the first…

What's the difference between a "pistol brace" and a "stock"? Don't they both go into your shoulder to stabilise the weapon?

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Post by bluescrn »

0xedd wrote: post #484
2muchcoffeeman wrote: post #464

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Too bad everyone jumped shipped to Bambuu Labs. If only we still had open source hardware.

None I know did. If you do your research, all the hype around Bambu is paid. Influencers pushed it. Tech deep dives show it is sub standard. Posted on HN. Prusa is king. High quality. Open source. EU made and engineered. Slicer is a market leader (Bambu's a fork of it).

Prusa may still be king if you're using printers commercially, running them hard 24/7 in a print farm, wanting to be sure your investment has a decent lifespan with readily-available spare parts and upgrade options.

But it's a premium brand now. For lighter use by hobbyists, Bambu is the clear winner on price/performance. The 'less open' downside is not a factor to most people, and the printers generally work so well out-of-the-box that repairability isn't as much of a concern as it was on printers of the past.

Personally I went from a Prusa MK3s to a Bambu P1P (after looking long+hard at Prusa options), and so far, no regrets. (Although I've kept the old Prusa as a 2nd printer and upgraded it to a MK3.5, but mostly just because I do enjoy a bit of tinkering with them)

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Post by direwolf20 »

ob102 wrote: post #375

make sure to collect a bunch of stl, gcode, etc files that you have questions about and email them to the NY and WA legislators seeking clarification. if it’s possession and not intent, maybe they need have skin in the game to understand.

Legislators will never be prosecuted for receiving an illegal file by email

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Post by RansomStark »

wombatpm wrote: post #358
pjc50 wrote: post #33

This is insanely stupid stuff. Even the UK with our weird panic over Incredibly Specific Knives hasn't tried to do this kind of technical restriction to prevent people printing guns. Why not? Because nobody is printing guns! It's an infeasible solution to a non-problem! Someone should dig into who this is coming from and why. The answers are usually either (a) they got paid to do it by a company selling the tech, whi…

Does the UK ban shows like Forged in Fire that teach you how to make all sorts of specific blades?

No, and the blades created because of the methods used, would likely not be covered by the legislation anyway, theres a carve out for antiques and weapons made using traditional methods (now define traditional methods, because the law doesn't, but hammer and anvil would seem to be the most obvious traditional approach).

However, in practice the police continually take and often destroy legally owned antiques claiming they are zombie swords.

The law is written in such a way the police can take anything and you have to prove to a judge they aren't illegal.

One very large example of such police practices: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RPm4Pts23Qg

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Post by direwolf20 »

defrost wrote: post #499
direwolf20 wrote: post #497

I can't read this because adafruit.com uses blocking technology on the website

It's the same "blocking technology" JWZ uses on his sites. Easily sidestepped, it's there to make a point I guess: https://www.jwz.org/blog/

No, it isn't.

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Post by cogman10 »

deaux wrote: post #299
SR2Z wrote: post #250

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This is a bad example. I've been notionally pro-ownership but also pro-regulation my whole life, and one of the major problems with gun legislation in the US is that it's incredibly poorly written and does not reflect the technical reality of guns. The government allows private ownership of automatic weapons, but hasn't issued any new tax stamps for 50 years. You can convert any semiauto gun into a full-auto gun for…

The mistake you're making here is assuming that > The hysteria over "assault weapons" basically outlawed guns that _looked_ scary, while not meaningfully making anyone safer. This wasn't the goal by the congresspeople, and that them having fired a gun would've changed that goal. That was the goal. They knew they weren't going to be able to pass any kind of legislation that actually msde people safer, but they wanted…

> It's the primary reason behind the TSA and its continuous expansion, for example.

I'd also add that the TSA is a good reason why we shouldn't expect talking legislators to gun ranges would make better gun laws.

The reason the TSA is what it is is because legislators fly more than most people. If you've ever been to DC you see a lot of this sort of security theater everywhere.

So much of the TSAs budget should be redirected towards what would actually make long distance travel safer, improving the ATC and Amtrak.

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Post by ddtaylor »

2muchcoffeeman wrote: post #464
robflynn wrote: post #213

My main concern is, how long is it before you can't print a replacement part for something you bought because it looks too similar to an OEM part and the manufacturer doesn't think you should be able to do that so they throw a little money to the right politician.

Too bad everyone jumped shipped to Bambuu Labs. If only we still had open source hardware.

AnyCubic AMS is great
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