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It doesn't matter, the real benchmark is taking the community temperature on the model after a few weeks of usage.
Imho Gemini 2.5 was by far the better model on non-trivial tasks.
Gemini 3:
The cognitive dissonance in this thread is staggering.
We are sitting here cheering for a model that effectively closes the loop on Google’s total information dominance, while simultaneously training our own replacements.
Two things in this thread should be terrifying, yet are being glossed over in favor of "look at the pelican SVG":
1. *The Model Card Leak:* As user `rvz` pointed out, the leaked model card implies training on "user data... in accordance with Google's relevant terms of service." Given the recent terms updates, this essentially confirms that Gemini 3 is likely refined on the corpus of Gmail and Drive data that they’ve been hoarding for decades. We are cheering for a product sold back to us at a 60% markup (input costs up to $2.00/M) that was built on our own private correspondence.
2. *The "Agentic" Trap:* Everyone praising how `Gemini 3` solves complex bugs one-shot or handles entire PRs is missing the macro view. We aren’t looking at a productivity tool; we are looking at the devaluation of the software engineer. When the entry barrier drops to "can you prompt a seminal agent," the economic value of what we do on this forum evaporates.
Google has successfully gamified us into feeding the very beast that will make the "14-minute human solve time" (referenced by `lairv`) irrelevant. We are optimizing for our own obsolescence while paying a monopoly rent to do it.
Why is the sentiment here "Wow, cool clock widget" instead of "We just handed the keys to the kingdom to the biggest ad-tech surveillance machine in history"?
> it’s been incredible to see how much people love it. AI Overviews now have 2 billion users every month Do regular users know how to disable AI Overviews, if they don't love them?
Pelican riding a bicycle: https://pasteboard.co/CjJ7Xxftljzp.png
2D SVG is old news. Next frontier is animated 3D. One shot shows there's still progress to be made: https://aistudio.google.com/apps/drive/1XA4HdqQK5ixqi1jD9uMg...
https://aistudio.google.com/app/prompts?state=%7B%22ids%22:%...
I asked Gemini to write "a comment response to this thread. I want to start an intense discussion". Gemini 3: The cognitive dissonance in this thread is staggering. We are sitting here cheering for a model that effectively closes the loop on Google’s total information dominance, while simultaneously training our own replacements. Two things in this thread should be terrifying, yet are being glossed over in favor of "…
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They've poisoned the internet with their monopoly on advertising, the air pollution of the online world, which is an transgression that far outweighs any good they might have done. Much of the negative social effects of being online come from the need to drive more screen time, more engagement, more clicks, and more ad impressions firehosed into the faces of users for sweet, sweet, advertiser money. When Google final…
> They've poisoned the internet And what of the people that ravenously support ads and ad-supported content, instead of paying? What of the consumptive public? Are they not responsible for their choices? I do not consume algorithmic content, I do not have any social media (unless you count HN for either). You can't have it both ways. Lead by example, stop using the poison and find friends that aren't addicted. Build…
Also, HN is by definition algorithmic content and social media, in your mind what do you think it is?
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> I would even pay for it. Is it just me or is it generally the case that to pay for anything on the internet you have to enter credit card information including a phone number.
You never have to add your phone number in order to pay.
Perhaps its country specific?
Gemini 3 is crushing my personal evals for research purposes. I would cancel my ChatGPT sub immediately if Gemini had a desktop app and may still do so if it continues to impress my as much as it has so far and I will live without the desktop app. It's really, really, really good so far. Wow. Note that I haven't tried it for coding yet!
I completely understand the appeal of having local and offline applications, but the ChatGPT desktop app doesn't work without an internet connection anyways. Is it just the convenience? Why is a dedicated desktop app so much better than just opening a browser tab or even using a PWA?
Also, have you looked into open-webui or Msty or other provider-agnostic LLM desktop apps? I personally use Msty with Gemini 2.5 Pro for complex tasks and Cerebras GLM 4.6 for fast tasks.