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Re: Gemini 3

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vjerancrnjak wrote: post #463
qsort wrote: post #343

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To be fair a lot of the impressive Elo scores models get are simply due to the fact that they're faster: many serious competitive coders could get the same or better results given enough time. But seeing these results I'd be surprised if by the end of the decade we don't have something that is to these puzzles what Stockfish is to chess. Effectively ground truth and often coming up with solutions that would be absolu…

How are they faster? I don’t think any ELO report actually comes from participating at a live coding contest on previously unseen problems.

My background is more on math competitions, but all of those things are essentially speed contests. The skill comes from solving hard problems within a strict time limit. If you gave people twice the time, they'd do better, but time is never going to be an issue for a computer.

Comparing raw Elo ratings isn't very indicative IMHO, but I do find it plausible that in closed, game-like environments models could indeed achieve the superhuman performance the Elo comparison implies, see my other comment in this thread.

Re: Gemini 3

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Post by samdoesnothing »

bnchrch wrote: post #87

I've been so happy to see Google wake up. Many can point to a long history of killed products and soured opinions but you can't deny theyve been the great balancing force (often for good) in the industry. - Gmail vs Outlook - Drive vs Word - Android vs iOS - Worklife balance and high pay vs the low salary grind of before. Theyve done heaps for the industry. Im glad to see signs of life. Particularly in their P/E whic…

Seriously? Google is an incredibly evil company whose net contribution to society is probably only barely positive thanks to their original product (search). Since completely de-googling I've felt a lot better about myself.

Re: Gemini 3

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Post by I_am_tiberius »

I still need a google account to use it and it always asks me for a phone verification, which I don't want to give to google. That prevents me from using Gemini. I would even pay for it.

Re: Gemini 3

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Post by senfiaj »

Haven't used Gemini much, but when I used, it often refused to do certain things that ChatGPT did happily. Probably because it has many things heavily censored. Obviously, a huge company like Google is under much heavier regulations than ChatGPT. Unfortunately this greatly reduces its usefulness in many situations despite that Google has more resources and computational power than OpenAI.

Re: Gemini 3

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Post by esafak »

CobrastanJorji wrote: post #322
acoustics wrote: post #190

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Microsoft hasn't been very quiet about it, at least in my experience. Every time I boot up Windows I get some kind of blurb about an AI feature.

Man, remember the days where we'd lose our minds at our operating systems doing stuff like that?

The people who lost their minds jumped ship. And I'm not going to work at a company that makes me use it, either. So, not my problem.

Re: Gemini 3

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Post by lemoncucumber »

bitpush wrote: post #365
lemoncucumber wrote: post #324

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It’s a common pattern for upstarts to embrace openness as a way to differentiate and gain a foothold then become progressively less open once they get bigger. Android is a great example.

Last I checked, Android is still open source (as AOSP) and people can do whatever-the-f-they-want with the source code. Are we defining open differently?

I think we're defining "less" differently. You're interpreting "less open" to mean "not open at all," which is not what I said.

There's a long history of Google slowly making the experience worse if you want to take advantage of the things that make Android open.

For example, by moving features that were in the AOSP into their proprietary Play Services instead [1].

Or coming soon, preventing sideloading of unverified apps if you're using a Google build of Android [2].

In both cases, it's forcing you to accept tradeoffs between functionality and openness that you didn't have to accept before. You can still use AOSP, but it's a second class experience.

[1] https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/07/googles-iron-grip-on...

[2] https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2025/08/google-will-block-si...

Re: Gemini 3

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Post by dormento »

junon wrote: post #435
JBiserkov wrote: post #402

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The requested prompt does not exist or you do not have access. If you believe the request is correct, make sure you have first allowed AI Studio access to your Google Drive, and then ask the owner to share the prompt with you.

I thought this was a joke at first. It actually needs drive access to run someone else's prompt. Wild.

Imagine the metrics though. "this quarter we've had a 12% increase on people using AI solutions in their google drive".

Re: Gemini 3

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Post by gpm »

I_am_tiberius wrote: post #484

I still need a google account to use it and it always asks me for a phone verification, which I don't want to give to google. That prevents me from using Gemini. I would even pay for it.

> I would even pay for it.

Is it just me or is it generally the case that to pay for anything on the internet you have to enter credit card information including a phone number.

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