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EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

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Re: EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

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Actually it’s very different to the US presidency and UK PM. US presidential candidates are appointed, but they must then be elected by the public. UK PMs must be elected MPs, or at least must face an immediate by-election (by constitutional convention) if not already an MP If back-hand deals, internal political favouritism, nepotism or opportunism lead to the appointment of an EU Commissioner there’s nothing the pub…

US presidents are appointed by the electoral college, not elected by the public.

I think you're mistaken about appointment/election:

* Citizens vote in a nationwide election every four years.

* Those votes determine electors in each state — this is part of the Electoral College system.

* The Electoral College then formally elects the president based on those state results.

* The candidate who receives at least 270 of the 538 electoral votes becomes president.

So while there’s a layer of formality through the Electoral College, the president is ultimately chosen by voters, not appointed by any government body.

Re: EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

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US presidents are appointed by the electoral college, not elected by the public.

I think you're mistaken about appointment/election: * Citizens vote in a nationwide election every four years. * Those votes determine electors in each state — this is part of the Electoral College system. * The Electoral College then formally elects the president based on those state results. * The candidate who receives at least 270 of the 538 electoral votes becomes president. So while there’s a layer of formality…

The EC is a government body. The voters do not elect the President, they elect the EC.

The same way that voters elect their national governments, which then appoint the Commission.

Re: EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

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To be fair to the Frisians, there are around 40,000-80,000 native Irish speakers and 500,000+ native Frisian speakers.

Irish is an official language of Ireland (there is signage and instructions in Irish up and down the Republic) , Frisian is not an official language of the Netherlands to the best of my knowledge Irish is certainly not a robust vigorous language but your 40,000-80,000 numbers downplay it I'd suggest. Here are some statistics from Deepseek Category Region Number of Speakers Source & Year Some Ability Republic of Irela…

> Frisian is not an official language of the Netherlands to the best of my knowledge

Sorry, but it is.

Re: EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

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Tomorrow there are elections in the Netherlands, and two parties are proposing adding Frysian to that list: https://neerlandistiek.nl/2025/10/kies-voor-taal/ Best get to retraining those models.

As a Brit I feel very at home when hearing/reading Dutch and Frisian. It’s a reminder that England and the Low Countries share a lot of close history all the way back to Anglo-Saxon times; of being fishers, traders, burghers and mercenaries moving around the North Sea chasing opportunities, spreading and augmenting languages. “Brea, bûter en griene tsiis is goed Ingelsk en goed Frysk”

Reading something like the Canterbury Tales is interesting as a Frisian, because old English really is close to Frisian — much closer than Dutch.

Re: EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

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Problem with these grant proposal things is that it favors established businesses over small founders. Establishes businesses have much more resources to go through all the legal / red tape issues. I’ve seen this in practice with innovation subsidies: small startup has to spend a lot of time to go though all the hoops, taking up significant resources, to get modest compensation for actual innovative work. Larger busi…

this! it favors established business with legal teams and (maybe more importantly) with connections. The EU is also great at creating a heavy regulatory environment. Which entrenches existing incumbents. So the EU creates barriers that favor big companies, then tries to fix it with grants that... also favor big companies. And then everyone's surprised that there's no innovation in Europe. From all the world's compani…

>this! it favors established business with legal teams and (maybe more importantly) with connections.

This x2. A close friend of mine works at a major EU HW tech company and his job is wearing a suit, going to dinner parties and rubbing shoulders with high level local and national bureaucrats to convince them to fund X, Y, Z projects, none of which result in any major commercial success or ROI for the governments because the money they get is not enough to make new successful products, but hey, he's loving his job which gives him amazing job security against the waves of layoffs the company went through due to falling of sales, plus the networking he gets out of that is invaluable.

So at least some people are enjoying the gravy train while it lasts. But that's why a lot of EU tech companies immediately go to the US first before opening up to the EU market. US VSs are more generous with their cheque books than EU governments and investors, plus the 300 million people single consumer market speaking English as the common language and all that.

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Irish is an official language of Ireland (there is signage and instructions in Irish up and down the Republic) , Frisian is not an official language of the Netherlands to the best of my knowledge Irish is certainly not a robust vigorous language but your 40,000-80,000 numbers downplay it I'd suggest. Here are some statistics from Deepseek Category Region Number of Speakers Source & Year Some Ability Republic of Irela…

> Frisian is not an official language of the Netherlands to the best of my knowledge Sorry, but it is.

Correct. Frisia (or Fryslân) is a bilingual province. Frisian is an official language of the Netherlands. Someone called in front of a judge in the north of the Netherlands has the right to be heard in Frisian, for example.

Fun fact: villages, towns, and cities in Frisia often have names which differ in Frisian and Dutch. In those cases the signs at the place limits will have both names listed; the official one on top (which in some cases is the Dutch name (e.g., Leeuwarden/Ljouwert) and in some cases the Frisian (e.g., Gytsjerk/Giekerk)).

Re: EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

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The leading European ECommerce Company, Zalando with 50m users, is now using the leading European AI platform, Hopsworks, to power their real-time AI. Zalando are Databricks largest EU customer, but they are using Hopsworks instead for operational AI.

You would never hear it, though, as European IT press only promotes SV startups

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8QFiLhnuFg&feature=youtu.be

Disclaimer, i work at Hopsworks.

Re: EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

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Tomorrow there are elections in the Netherlands, and two parties are proposing adding Frysian to that list: https://neerlandistiek.nl/2025/10/kies-voor-taal/ Best get to retraining those models.

Each EU country nominates one official language for the EU, otherwise we'd have Catalan, Breton, Kashubian and many more.

Which country nominates English? The obvious suspects are Ireland and Malta which have nominated non English languages so it is not them.

Re: EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

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> When you talk to most EU business owners, even in tech, the limiting factor isn't regulations. I have a tech startup in Estonia and I agree. To me the biggest limiting factor is lack of funding.

Yep, VCs don't exist here. Plus the absurd starting costs, it's like what, 20k to set up a GmbH?

I'm sure there's at least one US state where it's a pain to set up a company. So startup founders don't set up in that state but in Delaware, or recently maybe 1-2 ones. Germany is that state for the EU where it's a pain, so you set up your legal entity elsewhere.
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