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Re: Temu pulls its U.S. Google Shopping ads

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Post by e_hup »

idopmstuff wrote: post #490
wahnfrieden wrote: post #474

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I love it in terms of consumer experience. I like several products from AliExpress and the like, but sometimes find they're available for the same price or cheaper and faster with better customer service from Amazon. I don't care that they have generic brand names in either case

I'm with you. I don't really understand the complaints, since Amazon's return policy means that you aren't really taking a risk when you buy, even from randomly-named brands.

There are negative externalities caused by buying and returning stuff.

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Post by cgh »

vultour wrote: post #251
prmoustache wrote: post #155

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Why would you offer some low quality shit from Temu for a birthday? 99 items out of 100 self destruct within weeks of use. It is only useful to people compulsively buying clothing regardless of the quality and who will never wear twice the same thing. Disposable stuff/waste. One would only do that to their worst enemy. OK I am exagerrating a bit and had a handful lf decent stuff from aliexpress/wish/temu. But you can…

Reading this thread is mind-boggling. People complaining that cheap garbage from Temu is falling apart. People proudly proclaiming that they order Chinese crap almost daily. An argument about whether one crap peddler is better than another one. Am I taking crazy pills? Am I the only one who buys things a few times per year? This rampant consumerism is depressing.

Our neighbours have Prime vans as well as unmarked white delivery vans dropping stuff off almost daily, mostly small items. I have sometimes wondered where it all goes, until I see their overflowing garbage and recycling bins.

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Post by Propelloni »

genewitch wrote: post #486
neogodless wrote: post #473

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Do you mean this is the point of a carefully planned, deliberated, executed, and announced tariff rollout, or do you mean that's the whole point of tariffs as they are currently being implemented in the United States?

The tariffs that were announced during the campaign - the same way Ross Perot did - and the reasoning was to bring us manufacturing back to the US and reduce the tax burden on US citizens? Such as writing off car payments if the car is American? People wigged out over non-reciprocal tariffs, where we tariff at 50% what they charge the US. People wigged out at 10℅ flat rate tariffs. "Heard island penguins get charged…

The USA and the EU more or less have had even import duties. The USA averaging out at 1.47 % and the EU at 1.39 %. [1]

The EU has been advocating for a free-trade agreement, the TTIP, with the USA from 2013 on. It was buried in 2016 by the 45th president of the USA, who somehow thought it unfair. The EU has proposed a free-trade agreement only a few weeks ago. [2]

You may believe what you want, but at least in dealings with the USA the EU has always promoted free trade. Even Fox News acknowledges that ;)

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_tariff_ra...

[2] https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/european-union-ready-neg...

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Post by jillyboel »

ryukoposting wrote: post #436
0xTJ wrote: post #316

Good. They're pushing overpriced low-quality junk. If you want to buy from Temu but want a better chance at reasonable prices, shop AliExpress.

There's a different cost vs. shipping tradeoff between the two. I use Temu for little electronic things (OLED panels with breakout header pins, microcontroller boards, breadboards, etc). For that purpose, Temu's prices are much better than any domestic seller, for a product that is exactly the same for my purposes. And, unlike Aliexpress, it won't take a fiscal quarter for your stuff to arrive.

AliExpress stuff arrives within a week nowadays. I am in the EU and often it even ships from a warehouse in the EU.

When was the last time you used it? It was definitely true a few years ago.

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Post by jillyboel »

lifeisgood99 wrote: post #447
CydeWeys wrote: post #444

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AliExpress shipping has gotten noticeably faster even over the five years that I've been using it. Just about everything arrives within a week now.

I'm having the same experience. On one of my packages, the sender address was a local warehouse. I suspect Ali is warehousing outside of China.

They do and they tell you where it's shipped from on the checkout page

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Post by pixl97 »

bamboozled wrote: post #296
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #69

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> If we rethink our consumption, we could become happier If we wished upon a star that humans were better a lot of problems would go away. In the real world, poor people will make do and those with resources will buy smuggled goods. I’m already diverting a spring skiing trip to Canada because it’s cheaper to buy kit there than here.

This is what will happen, it's why Americans and American got into the cheaper, Chinese made goods thing in the first place, there was a LOT of demand for cheaper stuff. People will just do less, become more poor and have less opportunities or work around the system by smuggling things from Canada or something.

Maybe there was more demand for cheaper stuff in the US because wages had been rather stagnant in relation to production efficiency for decades?

I mean you're entire premise is not great at all. Capitalistic markets require competition to work. The US itself has mostly given up on 'competitive product' competition and instead fight each other with buyouts and other financial funding means.

Kicking China out of the market will just make our goods more expensive and people will do less and become more poor while the investor class gets a little bit richer.

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Post by runako »

buzer wrote: post #134
runako wrote: post #57

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> Maybe local production will get cheaper once more people start keeping their money in local communities. Is the thinking here that increased scale would allow production to get cheaper? How would this account for the fact that production was scaled here, but was not cost-competitive when it was operating at scale? What's different now?

Let's say currently it costs $15 to make thing 1m units of X in China and $50 to make 10k of them in the USA. USA could be scaled to make 50k of them for $40 and 100k for $30. 1m could cost like $25. There are people for who are ready to pay more for local products so the current production volume makes sense, but majority of people will go for cheaper option when given the chance so it doesn't make sense to scale up…

> say currently it costs $15 to make thing 1m units of X in China and $50 to make 10k of them in the USA. USA could be scaled to make 50k of them for $40 and 100k for $30. 1m could cost like $25.

So here we are assuming that we could get a 50% reduction in cost by scaling to 1m units of a thing. The problem with this logic is that many product categories currently made overseas were produced domestically at scale until relatively recently.

This assumption also appears to imply that the goods in question either have a very low labor input or are produced using automation that is not available to Chinese manufacturers.

Reframing my initial question, what advantages would a US manufacturer have today that they didn't have in e.g. 1990 that would allow them to manufacture for only 66% more than the same manufacturing in China?

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Post by GuinansEyebrows »

CubsFan1060 wrote: post #318
GuinansEyebrows wrote: post #17

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That would probably require that they receive federal funding to subsidize postage rates, which is unfortunately not going to happen (especially not under DeJoy).

He resigned last month.

Ah, yeah, just in time to be replaced by another Trump appointee to similar or worse results.
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