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Trump wins presidency for second time

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Re: Trump wins presidency for second time

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Post by thenaturalist »

harimau777 wrote: post #333

What's the best way for someone from one of the groups that Republicans hate to move to a Western European or Nordic nation where they are less likely to be marginalized or threatened? I'm sure there will be plenty of time to analyze exactly what happened, but right now my only concern is getting out.

You are in tech? EDIT: Heck even if not, just come over.

Come work in Berlin.

Very LGBTQ friendly.

The current gov. reduced the path to citizenship down to 5 years and allows for dual citizenships.

Get a permanent residency earlier, go live and work in the EU.

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Post by l33t7332273 »

goethes_kind wrote: post #165

From a game theoretical perspective this is a good result. It is a clear reiteration of the message to the Democrats: you won't win by claiming to be 0.1% less bad. The Democrats should have fielded a strong personality in their own right. This is not about left or right. It's about mobilizing people by giving them something to care about. "More of the same" and "not like that guy" isn't very enticing. I don't think…

I think the Democrats were claiming to be more like 75% less bad, but other than that your point stands.

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Post by 015a »

harimau777 wrote: post #333

What's the best way for someone from one of the groups that Republicans hate to move to a Western European or Nordic nation where they are less likely to be marginalized or threatened? I'm sure there will be plenty of time to analyze exactly what happened, but right now my only concern is getting out.

The number of republicans in a fifty mile radius of you, or even across the country, did not change between yesterday and today. What happened during your local government elections yesterday? State government?

There is nowhere to run to. When the Right felt like they were losing the soul of their country, they stayed and they voted. When Democrats feel the same, you want to run? I hear this everywhere and its literally the sensibility destroying America; not because the right is going to destroy America, far from it, but because any unchecked side will.

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Post by lo_zamoyski »

Even people who don't like Trump voted for the man. That's how bad Democrats have become, that even Trump could win. Selecting Chauncey Gardener as their candidate, especially after a term spent under an man who was in no condition to be president (watch old footage of Biden for comparison) was the coup de grace.

Of course, in a general sense, the GOP is the Democratic party on a time delay.

There are deep problems that partisan politics cannot fix, but perhaps it is time to begin taking third parties seriously and break away from the two-headed uniparty monopoly. Ranked-choice voting is one way to help this happen, but of course, the uniparty won't hear it.

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Post by behringer »

ozgrakkurt wrote: post #436

As a foreigner, it seems like both sides are super extremely marginalised. Both sides believe everything will be done and there will be a big change if the other side wins. Reality is really not that radical, people are being lit up by propoganda. Saying this as a Turkish person, this has been happening in our country almost since I was born and it destroyed politics, normalisation and being calm is much better than…

We're definitely going to be seeing big changes. Trump and the conservatives are in charge. They are going to execute project 2025. They setup all the ground work during Trump's last term.

Ukraine will be lost. Russia will encroach on Europe. The Republicans will staff Judges everywhere and build a stronger conservative justice system.

The rich will dominate even further over the poor and the US will become an extension of the Kremlin.

Trump may also try to set the stage for more dictatorial control. The only good thing about this election is Trump is so old he probably won't try to create a dictatorship since he won't benefit from it.

But have no doubt the democrats will not be taking back control within the next generation or two.

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Post by arolihas »

ozgrakkurt wrote: post #436

As a foreigner, it seems like both sides are super extremely marginalised. Both sides believe everything will be done and there will be a big change if the other side wins. Reality is really not that radical, people are being lit up by propoganda. Saying this as a Turkish person, this has been happening in our country almost since I was born and it destroyed politics, normalisation and being calm is much better than…

So as a Turkish person do you believe the other side is just as bad as Erdogan? Do you think inflation would be just as bad?

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Post by 015a »

yalogin wrote: post #275

Today we learned that immigration is more important for Americans than even abortion, so much that 3 states didn’t even codify it.

Exit polling yesterday didn't really indicate that, despite it being a big part of Trump's rhetoric. It more-so indicated that the economy and democracy (anti-establishment) were the most important issues.

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Post by mdgrech23 »

tlogan wrote: post #448

It’s all about the economy (remember, ‘it’s the economy, stupid’). We keep hearing statistics showing that the economy is doing well, but I have yet to meet anyone who feels like they’re actually better off. I’m not saying that the stats are wrong, but when it comes to politics, you can’t address economic anxiety by just pointing to statistics and saying, ‘Look, the numbers say everything is fine.’

honestly feel like we're actively being lied to about how "good" the economy is.
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