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Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by TedDoesntTalk »

trogdor wrote: post #213
foobiekr wrote: post #200

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All of them.

I am all-but-certain that NordVPN doesn't. I am in possession of records from a recent police investigation in which law enforcement subpoenaed NordVPN and the company replied, essentially, that they had no information connecting a particular IP address, at a specific date and time, to any specific user. (I am a reporter who covers law enforcement and crime.)

Here’s one such subpoena and reply (full PDF linked in the article):

https://blog.getfoxyproxy.org/2017/11/04/secret-service-subp...

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by [deleted] »

lo_zamoyski wrote: post #311
schroeding wrote: post #8

Wow, the website of his hosting company[1] is, eh, extremly honest: > Further, as Kosovo is an extremely corrupt country, we are able to bribe both executive and judicative as well as getting information about court orders and raids before execution, enabling us to move servers out of the affected location, protecting our clients in any situation. Our excellent Serbian connections enable us to also move servers cross…

Wouldn't full disclosure make them, in some sense, honest ? Also, you have just condemned entire nations of people, like those who lived under Soviet domination, where bribery became custom, because if you wanted to accomplish anything , you had to bribe the people involved. Just got married and want an apartment for your new family? You could submit a housing application, but it might bubble up to the top of the que…

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Post by glogla »

thomastjeffery wrote: post #337
RajT88 wrote: post #188

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> Similar on how people got Starship Troopers wrong. Is not about cheering fascism, but to ridicule it. Well - the film also had a disconnect with the book on the topic of fascism. The book was more on the pro-fascism side.

The film intentionally satirized the book.

The film is a satire of fascists propaganda, and as good satire often it, it is also an good example of fascist propaganda, just like Snow Crash is satire of Cyberpunk while being a good Cyberpunk.

The book isn't exactly fascist though. Verhoeven said he didn't read the book and does not plan to, so he is satirising somewhat superficially.

Heinlein did explore a lot of various political systems in his books, and I think Starship Troopers is focusing most on voter engagement - how people who vote should know something about what they vote on, and that is why only those who served (which includes military but also other "national service" like being a worker colonising planets or postman or whatever) get vote.

Is that fascist? I don't think so. Is it a good political system? I don't think so either but it is a good enough idea for a book.

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by adastra22 »

justaj wrote: post #499
adastra22 wrote: post #443

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A jury trial of your peers is a rare thing these days. This is how it would go down: The investigator says "who's been downloading CP?" and everyone looks at you. Probably because you're the weirdo internet geek among the family/roommates. They now have a suspect, and nothing you say then will convince them otherwise. They interview everyone separately leading the conversation to get statements about circumstantial t…

> [This more or less happened to a college roommate of mine (not CP though), and a Tor developer I knew through work.] I'm getting a hunch that this happened in the US. Did this happen in the US?

The roommate, yes. The Tor thing was in Europe. My hypothetical was based on the terrible US legal system though which Europe mostly doesn’t share. A big reason the Tor folks relocated to places like Germany was exactly because there is a legal system there that actually respects the spirit and letter of the law.

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Post by watwut »

alephxyz wrote: post #258
watwut wrote: post #248

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I dunno. The one thing I took away from reading both memoirs of people involved in crime (yes it exists) and reports about their court cases is that there is no honor among chiefs. And there is very little trust too. They lie and defraud each other constantly. They do kill each other too, but most often because someone knows too much or has something want.

The saying is no honor among _thieves_. Unless you mean chiefs as in c-suite, in which case it's also accurate.

I meant thieves, thanks. But, it really does fit c-suite too, except the murder part.

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Post by wallaBBB »

Timber-6539 wrote: post #496
wallaBBB wrote: post #492

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Countless examples of Nord supplying logs. They all have to keep logs or would be banned from offering services to US citizens.

Provide just one example. Am curious.

Here is a general text on that: https://www.pcmag.com/news/nordvpn-actually-we-do-comply-wit...

Exact examples are hard to find in the press. One that comes to mind is from a Belgian Telco company that was internally hacked by an employee hiding behind NordVPN. Nord when approached by the telco responded with the usual no logs, but after the telco involved the Interpol, logs were given and the attacker doxxed.

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Post by Etheryte »

trogdor wrote: post #458
Etheryte wrote: post #325

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You must be mistaking NordVPN for Mullvad.

I am not. This is an unrelated case that has never been reported publicly.

This sounds somewhat hard to believe. If the description of events is accurate, this would be superb marketing for the VPN provider. Why would they not talk about it publicly?

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Post by anthk »

barrysteve wrote: post #360
throwaway914 wrote: post #196

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There are many, many pedophiles out there. I'm also convinced of a conspiracy theory that a lot of dark web traffic and hosts are created/operated by secret parts of the gov to de-legitimize the need for anonymity. I believe this because it would be too easy with the access to that material and no oversight. Just muddy the waters so nothing in there looks worth protecting.

You literally don't need a tinfoil conspiracy for that idea. IBM is moving to passwordless auth on their server access. Preferring biometrics. Their youtube channel tells you directly. The "mainstream" culture has been pushing that idea for five years now, Philomena Cunk said we shouldn't follow the anonymous guy in 2018, golly gosh. My iphone plainly face scans me and my shopping malls and sports stadiums do the sam…

Use nncp-go over sneakernet. Also, nntp can be user over i2pd just fine, lots of people using for the ethical opposite of CP; that's it, hugely ethical reasons, such as Ukrainian and Russian folks politely talking together and being fed up of the war.

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Post by chewz »

Longhanks wrote: post #131
CSMastermind wrote: post #84

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I've heard similar things about Romania and Bulgaria which are both EU countries.

Corruption is also common practice within the EU (see: Eva Kaili), most of the upper EU just hides it better while pointing fingers at "unaligned" states, inside and outside of the EU. If Von der Leyen wasn’t corrupt, I’m sure she wouldn’t have any problem handing over her texts.

> If Von der Leyen wasn’t corrupt, I’m sure she wouldn’t have any problem handing over her texts.

Are you talking about Pfizer related text messages or earlier German MoD/McKinsey text messages?

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by anthk »

brightlancer wrote: post #299
EGreg wrote: post #165

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Well, if actual harm to people and children is what we want to reduce, then perhaps decriminalizing an innocuous (as in no victims) form of it may actually reduce the harm to actual people. Just like the cases for decriminalizing prostitution and drugs: https://time.com/longform/portugal-drug-use-decriminalizatio... And btw -- it's not just about thoughtcrime, it's a major double standard, seems to me. In the West it…

Legalized drug sales and prostitution among adults have _fewer_ victims but that doesn't mean no victims. Legalization is better but it isn't a panacea. > Such as the movie "Hostel". I never understood why that is OK, why the music industry has pushed gangsta rap etc. for decades, but then something like Cuties out of France which actually critiques the hypersexualization of teenage girls that is taking place, causes…

That existed in the late 90's with the Spice Girls and preteen/early teen girls doing girl bands mimicking the dances in every school in Europe.

Yet no one gave a shit. This is the new Satanic panic, a scapegoat to avoid focusing ourselves on important shit.

Paranoia sells, and it's the main fuel of the US style Capitalism, getting a full panic state almost monthly in order to be a mindless consumer.

OFC satanic panic was the same crap, in order to keep the children and teens away to non-consumit (read: TV and mainstream toys, music and movies) so the industry didn't collapse in a few years. And, yet, thanks to internet, years later, they did.

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