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A dad took photos of his toddler for a doctor – Google flagged him as a criminal

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#501

Did Google actively scan and classify user’s photos? Because it seems unlikely that these particular photos would match one from the CSAM database.

That is the implication of this story. Probably flag by ai, review by hand, report. I doubt it is unique to hangouts, probably anything cloud.

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This. China, unlike the U.S., is not gonna ask other countries to extradite me if they ever find me in violation of whatever bullshit law they have.

That's because it would be largely ineffective. States use the powers they have.

Although the US apparently does not have an extradition treaty with China, a DDG search for:

china extradited from us

Produces many independent cases of China successfully extraditing suspects from the US and vice versa.

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I want to, really I do, but it feels like trading one devil for another. Email is by far the biggest albatross around my neck. To migrate email requires me to setup two different failure points: purchase a domain and a Fastmail-like service. Now that is two different places that are subject to me forgetting to pay a bill, being social engineered into giving away my account, etc. To say nothing of the long tail of acq…

Autopay is simple to set up with any hosting provider. If you're in a financial place where the $5/mo and $10/yr payments might bounce... yeah, probably don't pay for email. As far as the social engineering goes, personally I gladly take that risk in order to bring my email firmly into my control. If I'm going to lose access to my email, I want it to be because I did something stupid, not because an algorithm flagged…

I'm not fully confident that I'll never cancel a credit card that pays annual subscription. Generally it's fine because alert email would come on my inbox, but it's email infrastructure so I need extra attention.

Re: A dad took photos of his toddler for a doctor – Google flagged him as a criminal

#504

My wife is a doctor and received a few of these kind of images in whatsapp from her patients from time to time. Should she be concerned?

Perhaps switch to signal or telegram? Some service that guarantees confidentiality.

Whatsapp and Signal are e2e encrypted. Telegram isn't.

Re: A dad took photos of his toddler for a doctor – Google flagged him as a criminal

#505

This was a predictable outcome of the following factors: * Criminalizing possession and creation of child pornography equivalently * Conscripting the tech sector into detecting it via SESTA/FOSTA. Look forward to reading stories like this ad nauseum.

You could shorten your comment to "This was a predictable outcome of conscripting the tech sector", and it would be more accurate / precise.

Child pornography is only one of many areas where false positives in legally mandated sescanners end up ruining people.

Credit card payments come to mind, though I think those are mostly self-regulation.

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Especially because you can take photos with someone's phone without locking it. All you need is brief physical access to the phone.

You also need brief physical access to a naked child at the same time as the phone. That may be a bit more difficult to arrange.

No, you just need a reasonably high resolution photo of one.

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#507

Also, it looks like a powerful attack vector. Just slip a questionable content onto a victim's phone - and voila, a lot of trouble is under way, probably irreversible.

Especially because you can take photos with someone's phone without locking it. All you need is brief physical access to the phone.

This looks easy critical attack method I've never come up with. Very realistic CGI shown on tablet could be used for that, instead of real CSAM.

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One solution to many of these concerns is a periodic backup (via Takeout) of your Google account.

I have tried this many times, and literally the only time it succeeded was when I had it exported to Google Drive. It feels like they built it to say that you can, but your data is still just as locked as before…

Hmm, which part fails? Works great for me. You can schedule it to happen every 2 months for a year. And so every 2 months I get an email with links to 7 or so 50GB .tgz files. They download very quickly with no throttling and fully saturate my 1Gbs connection.

Re: A dad took photos of his toddler for a doctor – Google flagged him as a criminal

#509

I have a larger issue that no one addressed. There has to be some type of special software for the medical profession that allows you to take a picture on your phone that is not stored on your phone and that you send to the doctor.

The market leader is a system called Epic. It's like the SAP of the medical industry -- universally kind of hated; but it works well enough once set up.

I'm sort of surprised you haven't encountered it yet (and that the people writing responses to your comment haven't either).

Here's a PR piece about their secure video chat feature. (They also support emailing around photos, and the app has a built in camera, but that's old news, and not in their PR blog reel)

https://www.epic.com/epic/post/expanding-telehealth-during-t...

They are doing some interesting stuff with outpatient monitoring and treatment-specific workflows, apparently:

https://www.epic.com/epic/archive/epic-outcomes

Re: A dad took photos of his toddler for a doctor – Google flagged him as a criminal

#510

I wonder what happens if I share the Nevermind album cover?

The copyright filter nails you to flaming pentagram while the priests of Syrinx surround you and chant. In the style of Rush 2112.

(For the first time ever, I wish I had a DALL-E 2 account)

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