Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

DALL·E now available in beta

openai.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

501–510 of 579 posts

Re: DALL·E now available in beta

#501

Post by nprateem »

sinenomine wrote: post #401
dave_sullivan wrote: post #248

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think people don't realize how huge these models really are. When they're free, it's pretty cool. But charge an amount where there's actual profit in the product? Suddenly seems very expensive and not economically viable for a lot of use cases. We are still in the "you need a supercomputer" phase of these models for now. Something like DALLE mini is much more accessible but the results aren't good enough. Early ear…

> I think people don't realize how huge these models really are. They really aren't that large by the contemporary scaling race standards. DALLE-2 has 3.5B parameters, which should fit on an old GPU like Nvidia RTX2080, especially if you optimize your model for inference [1][2] which is commonly done by ML engineers to minimize costs. With optimized model, your memory footprint is ~1 byte per parameter, and some less…

I've been playing with neural text to speech APIs recently and wondered the same. Why are all the cloud providers charging around $16 per million characters? Do they really need to run on massive machines or are they just scalping/trying to recover training costs?

Re: DALL·E now available in beta

#502

Post by padolsey »

imdsm wrote: post #495
anhncommenter25 wrote: post #430

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I recently talked with a concept artist about DALL-E and first thing they mentioned was "you know that's all stolen art, right?" Immediately made me think of GitHub Copilot. However the artists being featured in DALL-E's newsletters can't stop gushing about 'the new instrument they are learning how to play' and other such metaphors that are meant to launder what's going on. My theory is that the professions most at-r…

Having used copilot for over a year now, it isn't there to replace programmers. It isn't called GitHub Pilot, and it doesn't do well with generating original ideas. Sure, if your job is to create sign up forms in HTML then sure, it'll do your job in a second, but if you're creating more complex systems, copilot is just there to help save you time when writing code (which is just implementing ideas). Think of it like…

Agreed. But I also understand the anxieties. I'd say a very significant % of programmers are not creating complex systems; they're coding up mostly CRUD UIs that have a great deal in common. It's getting to that inflection point where less programmers might be needed [??] ... Let's wait and see.

Re: DALL·E now available in beta

#503

Post by nprateem »

smusamashah wrote: post #286
xnx wrote: post #76

I fully expect stock image sites to be swamped by DALL-E generated images that match popular terms (e.g. "business person shaking hands"). Generate the image for $0.15. Sell it for $1.00.

They won't. DALL-E images are mostly not as high quality. The high quality stuff which everyone has been sharing is result of lots of cherry picking.

Give it a few years. I'd be exiting if I owned a stock site

Re: DALL·E now available in beta

#504

Post by firecall »

tiborsaas wrote: post #261
bemmu wrote: post #58

I was supposed to be making a video game, but got a bit sidetracked when DALL·E came out and made this website on the side: http://dailywrong.com/ (yes I should get SSL). It's like The Onion, but all the articles are made with GPT-3 and DALL·E. I start with an interesting DALL·E image, then describe it to GPT-3 and ask it for an Onion-like article on the topic. The results are surprisingly good.

Thanks, finally a legit news publication :) This was really funny :) http://dailywrong.com/man-finally-comfortable-just-holding-a...

Yes, I actually LOLed at that one!

Re: DALL·E now available in beta

#505

Post by bodge5000 »

softwaredoug wrote: post #398

Surprised by the lack of comments on the ethics of DALL-E being trained on artists content whereas copilot threads are chock full of devs up in arms over models trained on open source code. Isn’t it the same thing?

Surely being suprised by the lack of comments on the ethics of DALL-E on HN is the same as the lack of comments on the ethics of co-pilot on some artists forum. I highly doubt you're going to find r/artists or whatever up in arms about co-pilot, even if they are about DALL-E.

Re: DALL·E now available in beta

#506

Post by williamcotton »

orange8 wrote: post #471
williamcotton wrote: post #440

I would like to point out that there is not as much of an uproar on this forum over DALL-E utilizing other people’s photographs, illustrations, et al, as there is around Copilot utilizing other people’s code. Why do you think that is?

- This is not a photography/illustration focused forum. - Unlike software photography/illustration are not used to run essential systems like banking, manufacturing, medical equipment etc

While I have definitely seen discussions of safety from what I can gather the main point of contention is with copyright.

Re: DALL·E now available in beta

#507

Post by edf13 »

bemmu wrote: post #58

I was supposed to be making a video game, but got a bit sidetracked when DALL·E came out and made this website on the side: http://dailywrong.com/ (yes I should get SSL). It's like The Onion, but all the articles are made with GPT-3 and DALL·E. I start with an interesting DALL·E image, then describe it to GPT-3 and ask it for an Onion-like article on the topic. The results are surprisingly good.

Your images are coming over SSL - so won't show up on many browsers (E.g. Firefox)

Re: DALL·E now available in beta

#508

Post by miohtama »

softwaredoug wrote: post #398

Surprised by the lack of comments on the ethics of DALL-E being trained on artists content whereas copilot threads are chock full of devs up in arms over models trained on open source code. Isn’t it the same thing?

Another question related to ethics

> Preventing harmful images: We’ve made our content filters more accurate so that they are more effective at blocking images that violate our content policy — which does not allow users to generate violent, adult, or political content

What is defined as political content? Can I prompt DALL-E to draw ”Fat Putin”?

Re: DALL·E now available in beta

#509

Post by Traubenfuchs »

Is there a comprehensive list of all the disgraceful censorship and model-neutering restrictions they put on DALL-E? It's sad to see that openai is so absolutely terrified of their models producing upsetting content and the bad press that would ensue, when they could just show everyone the finger and say: "It's just pretty pictures. Made up pictures. They aren't real and can't hurt you, so stop crying."

e.g. One is unable to create faces of real people in the public eye.

Re: DALL·E now available in beta

#510

Post by l33tman »

antiterra wrote: post #475
gwern wrote: post #413

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's true that image models are much less of a burden on GPU VRAM than a model like BLOOM where fitting it into a few A100s is ideal, but these diffusion models are a PITA for a ordinary hobbyist in terms of total compute: the CLIP pass over the text input is almost free, but then you feed it into the diffusion model, for one sample you'll be doing 10-100 forward passes (depending on how fancy the diffusion methods a…

> 6-9 means a joykilling minute+ wait Excet we’re already waiting 90+ seconds for dall-e mini.

min-dalle with MEGA model params takes about 20 seconds to generate 9 images on a RTX3080 if you run it locally, including the param loading time (which is about 8 of those seconds)
Post reply on HN