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I have the same question too. Beyond speculation/greed, what are real world use cases of blockchain that can't be done with existing/mature tech? Nano seems nice for instant fee-less transfer. Other than that?
Take for instance, my cousin's husband in India, who currently holds a bunch of black money in either INR or in gold, can buy stablecoins such as DAI, then park it in various DeFi solutions to earn a nice return on it. So not only he is gaining an exposure in Dollar instead of a highly inflationary currency like INR, he is also able to make it work instead of burying it in a bag until he needs it. Before you start wi…
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There's a big cultural gap here, because your description sounds obviously shady to me. If my car financing agreement said "the terms of the loan are whatever happens when you run this program we wrote", I would never in a million years have signed it.
The code is immutable and open source, so you can inspect exactly what it does.
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After all those years, there's still not a single useful blockchain application around. These days I see lots companies telling me, they put their "supply chain on blockchain" and while I understand what they probably want to tell me ("you can't tamper with where our stuff comes from") I don't see the point in that. If you've got trust issues with your subcontractors you should fix those and not "seal" the willingly…
Putting supply chain on a blockchain isn't about verifying the authenticity of the goods. Its about being able to buy and sell the goods at any time, hedge out price risk, etc.
Can you explain this in greater detail? I don't wish to be a naysayer, but I don't understand how those concepts are blockchain-specific. Goods being re-sold/diverted while in transit was a regular occurrence prior to the existence of blockchain technologies. What is being brought to the table that is new?
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After all those years, there's still not a single useful blockchain application around. These days I see lots companies telling me, they put their "supply chain on blockchain" and while I understand what they probably want to tell me ("you can't tamper with where our stuff comes from") I don't see the point in that. If you've got trust issues with your subcontractors you should fix those and not "seal" the willingly…
I know someone who got a 7 figure loan backed by cryptocurrency collateral in a matter of minutes using makerdao. The best part? They didn't even had to provide their name. This is the future folks, I highly recommend that you actually try some of these projects before writing them off.
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It's over-collaterized, so you put more crypto than the loan value. You might say "why the hell would I do that?", in order of importance: 1) you hold on to your asset's appreciation, 2) access the liquidity, 3) avoid capital gains tax.
I think in the past someone mentioned about under-collaterized loan. It's based on your reputation. The idea is you use your Ethereum account to do activities. Based on these activities, people could give you a loan. Such activities can be something like answering questions (imagine Stackoverflow but the authentication runs on Ethereum).
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For values of "always" that depend on whether Tether actually has $34B in reserves to back the 34B USDT currently in circulation. Call me crazy, but I'd bet on the "under" here.
Doesn't Tether have to provide 3rd party audited accounts as to what they actually hold in reserve?
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Maybe somehow they simultaneously have plenty of knowledge and don't agree with you. So in the spirit of education - what amazing things are there about ethereum or Bitcoin that will change my mind about their intrinsic value that I don't already know? (My current opinion is that the intrinsic value of PoW systems is negative due to low actual utility and very high cost.)
I like seeing things that have deep criticism of crypto and not just cheerleader blog posts. There are few on HN, the only notable ones aside from this post is the Tether fiasco. Most commenters did not seem very familiar with either subject vs others on HN. Maybe it's my imagination?
But really, it kind of feels like the Tether investigation is the only thing shaking up the ecosystem in an interesting way, and it's doing so at a glacial pace. There really isn't much else new to say.
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Not only are all those things possible (other than decentralized, because that has a high cost and no tangible benefit) in the normal banking system but there's apps for them already. And they are from regulated companies and you have legal protections.
Flash loans aren't really; nobody will lend you money against zero collateral that you pay back instantaneously after a transaction, because in the traditional banking system there's always a risk of default and a transaction cost for enforcing your rights in case of default. With a flash loan the whole transaction fails if at the end of the transaction you don't have sufficient funds to pay it back, while you're gua…
So you're right, this isn't a thing that exists today outside of crypto because it's not needed outside of crypto. Someone who can pay a loan back as part of the same transaction in which the loan is issued is not a default risk, and in the real world you just don't bother with the loan: you just pay for the underlying transaction directly.
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I don't know if you'd count it as a blockchain solution but I constantly use crypto to send money to my family and it's the best solution that I've found. And yes, I now about transferwise, paypal, swift, etc. And using crypto is faster and cheaper.
I call maximum shenanigans on "cheaper" unless you're sending large amounts of money. Bitcoin: ~$25 Ethereum (and all tokens): ~$17 For comparison, to burn that much in fees on Paypal (2.5% + 30c), I'd need to send around 10K. Crypto is currently pointless for anything other than big transactions, and the unpredictability of the transaction fees, let alone the coin's value, is a big problem.
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What's the intrinsic value of USD? It's a garbage pre-mined token that's continually debased at the behest of a cabal of rich bankers so they can purchase real assets and consolidate the world's wealth. The petrodollar isn't exactly efficient either, considering the costs of the military industrial complex. Every year the USD is worth less. Every year BTC is worth more. Hope that helps.
Nope. That's the sort of argument that makes your position weaker. You see, USD has a government that asserts it is legal tender for all debts within its borders and military power to back up those assertions. These are the sort of real-world constraints that you can't just ignore. Attempting to do so makes me less charitable towards other assertions you might make. You come across as an idealist talking about their…
These constraints were drafted by a handful of rich white bankers in a secret meeting. I have no problem ignoring their constraints. It seems you do.
Can you imagine all the hot-takes HN would generate if email were invented today?
"You can't just encroach on the sovereignty of USPS like that" "Electronic Mail doesn't do anything the pony-express can't do" "If we allow Electron Mail then how do we attach a postage stamp"
Email adoption, like Crypto doesn't require convincing the entire population. The laggards will join eventually.