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Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by dan-robertson »

mrweasel wrote: post #351
DangerousPie wrote: post #186

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FWIW I thought I would miss TouchID for a long time until I finally bought a new iPhone and realised that FaceID actually worked much better than I expected. Yes there are some occasions where it doesn't work well (when you're trying to unlock the phone without looking at it properly) but there are also many occasions where it works much better. Most of the time my phone now unlocks so smoothly that I don't even real…

To me FaceID makes zero sense. The majority of times I unlock my phone when it’s laying flat on the tabel and away from me. I typically don’t pick up my phone to read a message, so FaceID will require me to move my entire face and upper body to unlock the phone. This is also why I don’t get the point of having the fingerprint reader on the back like many Android phones. I wouldn’t argue that Apple drop FaceID, but at…

Surely this depends on the situation. In many lying flat situations, Face ID does work. If you want to read a notification (eg a message) while you have gloves on (eg if you’re skiing) then Face ID plus raise to wake are a massive improvement, though of course you have to take your goggles off.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by binaryblitz »

arrosenberg wrote: post #452
rmellow wrote: post #285

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> Form factor is, candidly, still too big for my tiny hands As someone frequently getting pinky finger injuries from holding my phone, I feel you. Popsockets are a solution, but an annoying one that changes the form factor my phone and doubles as a potent trigger for fidgeting.

https://www.loopycases.com/ Still changes the form factor, but without the fidgeting problem. The case makes it easy to pop the phone in and out if you need the original form factor.

I would love this if I could collapse the loop. I hate that I can't put my phone down flat on my desk.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by spurgu »

dagrha wrote: post #453
spurgu wrote: post #350

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> It's insane that the "phablet" standard from ~5 years ago is now not even the new standard, but the only standard. Utterly insane. I replaced my SE with a Sony Xperia XZ2 Compact yesterday. It has a 5" screen and decent specs (2018 flagship). About as small as you can get a mobile nowadays, sadly. And wow how I've missed Android, the UX is soooo much better in most aspects. I can't believe I was stuck with iOS (as…

Nice choice on the XZ2. Like you I picked up a phone from the Xperia line. It's an older model than yours, namely the Z1 Compact, which I chose after filtering for form factor, LineageOS support, and price. I wrote about it here: https://hallau.world/post/the-perfect-android-phone/

That's a great little table you've built there, highly useful for finding new phones with LineageOS in mind, bookmarked! I wish I would've found it a week ago...

It seems that for support is not fully there yet for the XZ2 Compact, camera is still a work-in-progress, unfortunately: https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-xz2/development/rom-...

But once that's sorted out I might be tempted to switch, or at the latest when I run out of official Sony updates.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by dan-robertson »

SlowRobotAhead wrote: post #481
333c wrote: post #140

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For me, I prefer the 4" screen but I can handle a slightly bigger screen. Touch ID is a must and I'm glad they kept it. But the loss of the headphone jack will be bad, so I'll stick with my current SE as long as it's supported.

> so I'll stick with my current SE as long as it's supported. Seems to me you can assume that’s about to end.

Why? Apple tend to support their phones for many years after newer models are released

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by dang »

philliphaydon wrote: post #127
ivraatiems wrote: post #64

As a current iPhone SE user, here's my assessment: Pros: * Feature set in terms of processor, camera, etc., is exactly what I want * Continued presence of Touch ID is a huge plus, I don't like Face ID * Price point is, admittedly, fantastic Cons: * Lack of headphone jack is still unacceptable * Form factor is, candidly, still too big for my tiny hands * Color schemes aren't as nice as the SE's (can I contribute to CO…

When I went from iPhone 7+ to the iPhone 11 Pro Max, I was 100% convinced I would HATE Face ID... It's why I avoided the 10. But damn it's one of my favourite features! Until Wuhan Flu happened because I wear a mask outside so I have to type my pass code in :( Other than the mask issue. I'm convinced Face ID > Touch ID. Edit: Wow people super upset over me liking Face ID.

It was flagged obviously because you put an unrelated flamebait phrase in the middle of your comment. That's not cool, and we already asked you to stop this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22824585.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by PunksATawnyFill »

wiremine wrote: post #397
ivraatiems wrote: post #64

As a current iPhone SE user, here's my assessment: Pros: * Feature set in terms of processor, camera, etc., is exactly what I want * Continued presence of Touch ID is a huge plus, I don't like Face ID * Price point is, admittedly, fantastic Cons: * Lack of headphone jack is still unacceptable * Form factor is, candidly, still too big for my tiny hands * Color schemes aren't as nice as the SE's (can I contribute to CO…

> Lack of headphone jack is still unacceptable I think I'm in the minority, but I haven't really missed the headphone jack in my iPhone 11. I have the Echo earbuds, and those have been good to great for my use cases. This continues to feel a bit like the 3.5 floppy and CD-ROM removals from the Mac: a lot of people hated it, until it was a nonissue.

Ugh, this is not at all a valid comparison. It's extremely tired, too.

The phone MUST create analog audio signals, to drive its own speaker. Denying customers a connector to access it is petty and offensive. Compounding that offense is requiring every listening device to now incorporate redundant D/A converters. Contrary to apologists saying that this enables better quality, it in fact results in wholly unpredictable quality.

Not to mention that your ears will ALWAYS require analog audio. So do billions of amplification devices around the world.

There's no excuse.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by hrktb »

graeme wrote: post #352

Quick comment about sizes and popularity. This is the size of the iPhone 6/6S/7/8 form factor. There are a LOT of iPhone models of this type. They're bigger than the old SE, but effectively a fair bit smaller than the X/XS/11 Pro format, which has a much larger screen to manage. So, this phone gives those of us who liked the 8 body size an upgrade path. David Smith compiled iPhone usage stats for his app. The iPhone…

I guess you are really comparing screen sizes ?

The physical size of the 8 and this new SE is pretty much the same as the X/11 Pro (it's only smaller 5~6mm in height, 4mm in width, 0.4~8 mm in depth). If you were holding up on your 8 because of that, I'd say you can fork the 1000+ bucks for the X or 11 Pro, it will be an upgrade in every dimension except Touch ID disappearing.

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