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What It Was Like to Seek Asylum in Medieval England

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Re: What It Was Like to Seek Asylum in Medieval England

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Post by bane »

wtbob wrote: post #41
bane wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You've apparently missed the last 10-15 years of web development. The web is no more about static content these days as cars are about horses. If you want static documents, I recommend pdfs?

> If you want static documents, I recommend pdfs? Which of course aren't viewable in a terminal. The Web is about the interchange of documents, and documents are text .

> Which of course aren't viewable in a terminal.

That's a silly criteria.

Books on art, magazines, maps, etc. are all definitely documents and aren't view-able in a terminal.

The web was never about interchange of documents, where'd you dream up that fantasy?

I'm kind of surprised how dense the ret-con fantasies here are about the web considering this is a pretty technical forum.

Re: What It Was Like to Seek Asylum in Medieval England

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Post by kijin »

ars wrote: post #29

The author clearly knows more about the Christian practice than the Hebrew (Jewish) one. > while Hebraic tradition went bigger, declaring six whole cities as places where criminals could take refuge This is not true. The only sanctuary offered in those cities was if someone accidentally or via negligence killed someone. The relatives were not able to extract blood vengeance in those cities. That's it. It was not for…

You're right. There was no sanctuary for cold-blooded killers and traitors.

Example: In 1 Kings, Chapter 2, Joab flees to the tent of God and grabs the horn of the altar. He had participated in Adonijah's failed coup d'etat and killed two commanders of the Israeli army.

King Solomon doesn't even bother to drag him away from the altar before killing him.

Re: What It Was Like to Seek Asylum in Medieval England

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Post by nkuttler »

bane wrote: post #51
wtbob wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If you want static documents, I recommend pdfs? Which of course aren't viewable in a terminal. The Web is about the interchange of documents, and documents are text .

> Which of course aren't viewable in a terminal. That's a silly criteria. Books on art, magazines, maps, etc. are all definitely documents and aren't view-able in a terminal. The web was never about interchange of documents, where'd you dream up that fantasy? I'm kind of surprised how dense the ret-con fantasies here are about the web considering this is a pretty technical forum.

> The project is based on the philosophy that much academic information should be freely available to anyone. It aims to allow information sharing within internationally dispersed teams, and the dissemination of information by support groups.

http://info.cern.ch/hypertext/WWW/Summary.html

Re: What It Was Like to Seek Asylum in Medieval England

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Post by stan_rogers »

bane wrote: post #51
wtbob wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If you want static documents, I recommend pdfs? Which of course aren't viewable in a terminal. The Web is about the interchange of documents, and documents are text .

> Which of course aren't viewable in a terminal. That's a silly criteria. Books on art, magazines, maps, etc. are all definitely documents and aren't view-able in a terminal. The web was never about interchange of documents, where'd you dream up that fantasy? I'm kind of surprised how dense the ret-con fantasies here are about the web considering this is a pretty technical forum.

How is it even possible to come to that conclusion? The web was about document and hyperlinks and nothing else when it began. There was no scripting. Tables and inline images were later additions. Some of us were actually using and creating content for the web in '93; you can't ret-con us out of the picture.

Re: What It Was Like to Seek Asylum in Medieval England

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Post by prodigal_erik »

bane wrote: post #51
wtbob wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If you want static documents, I recommend pdfs? Which of course aren't viewable in a terminal. The Web is about the interchange of documents, and documents are text .

> Which of course aren't viewable in a terminal. That's a silly criteria. Books on art, magazines, maps, etc. are all definitely documents and aren't view-able in a terminal. The web was never about interchange of documents, where'd you dream up that fantasy? I'm kind of surprised how dense the ret-con fantasies here are about the web considering this is a pretty technical forum.

Have a look at http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/html-spec/html-spec_toc.html. It describes a nearly ideal language for technical documentation, and it's fully usable on any web browser ever created. That's how the web worked when authors were competent and not beholden to marketers; before the industry dismantled an outstanding hypertext platform and replaced it with an embarrassingly half-assed application platform.

Re: What It Was Like to Seek Asylum in Medieval England

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Post by jsprogrammer »

pdabbadabba wrote: post #46
javert wrote: post #44

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Opposing "speech policing" is standing up for open speech. It is not a variant of "speech policing." To claim that it is is just nasty verbal trickery. It's exactly like one person saying "Criminals use guns to rob people" and another person saying "But police use guns, too, so they're just as bad as criminals." The proper distinction is that criminals use guns to rob , and police use guns to protect . There is a tec…

What you read as sarcasm I had intended to be lighthearted, so I'm sorry about that. But there was also a point buried in there: I think it is clearly not contrary to the ideals of free/open speech to also hold the view that not every comment is productive or welcome in the context of every conversation given the prevailing community norms. This is why it is typically considered rude to bring up religion, politics, o…

There are no proper limits. If someone doesn't like a speech, they can just down-mod it. Eventually an algorithm will cull the speech if some obscure amount of down-mods occur.

Those who wish to censor, can on HN discussions.

Re: What It Was Like to Seek Asylum in Medieval England

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Post by [deleted] »

pointym5 wrote: post #16

The first image in that article is labeled Notre Dame , but that's the title for lots of cathedrals in France. That particular one is Notre Dame de Reims. The reproduced old image towards the bottom is jokingly called "Notre Dame back in the notre day", but that is clearly Westminster Abbey.

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Re: What It Was Like to Seek Asylum in Medieval England

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Post by dredmorbius »

pflanze wrote: post #19
benihana wrote: post #2

Before the content even loaded there was a light box that blacked out the content behind it asking for my email.

Do like me and turn off JavaScript by default. The more people we are, the greater the chances that the web remains usable without JavaScript.

Stylebot or Stylish (Chrome/Firefox) and nuking such interstitials helps.

I've started adding same to my default stylesheet as block elements.

This covers a lot of sins:

    [class*="modal"], [class*="popup"], [class*="overlay"],
    [class*="interstitial"], [class*="social"], [class*="cookie"],
    [class*="flyout"], [class*="colorbox"], [class*="Modal"], 
    [class*="Popup"], [class*="Overlay"], [class*="Interstitial"],
    [class*="Social"], [class*="Cookie"], [class*="Flyout"],
    [class*="Colorbox"], [id*="modal"], [id*="popup"], [id*="overlay"],
    [id*="interstitial"], [id*="social"], [id*="cookie"],
    [id*="flyout"], [id*="colorbox"], [id*="Modal"], [id*="Popup"],
    [id*="Overlay"], [id*="Interstitial"], [id*="Social"],
    [id*="Cookie"], [id*="Flyout"], [id*="Colorbox"] { 
        display: none; 
    }
(Though it may also have false positives.)

Re: What It Was Like to Seek Asylum in Medieval England

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Post by chnx »

pointym5 wrote: post #16

The first image in that article is labeled Notre Dame , but that's the title for lots of cathedrals in France. That particular one is Notre Dame de Reims. The reproduced old image towards the bottom is jokingly called "Notre Dame back in the notre day", but that is clearly Westminster Abbey.

There's even a source under the image that links to, "https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Westminster_Abbey_-_...
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