One thing is for sure,
Ellen Pao is not liked in Reddit.
Ellen Pao owes Kleiner Perkins $276,000 for lawsuit costs: judge
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Re: Ellen Pao owes Kleiner Perkins $276,000 for lawsuit costs: judge
#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
Most of us aren't in the position to get sued for gender discrimination. So this whole Ellen Pao thing is just a bunch of nerds eating popcorn. It's our version of a celebrity magazine. So in that sense, more gossip about Ellen Pao's personal life/actions at reddit (which she is ruining) are completely par for the course.
How is she ruining reddit?
Because banning certain reddits is a value to no-one and a disvalue to everyone.
It does not add value to me to have subreddits Ellen Pao personally disagrees with be banned. Rather, it takes away value.
And now that the precedent has been set, the same will be the case with future reddit leadership.
Re: Ellen Pao owes Kleiner Perkins $276,000 for lawsuit costs: judge
#53Reddit is a "microblogging company"?
It's as good as any description.
It's as good as literally "any description"; science forum, racist feedback command center, gay hookup site, blog response community, 10th largest website in the solar system, click-bait blog-spam sales site, blue trombone weekly meetup organization, micro blogging community...
It's actually by definition a link aggregate website.
Re: Ellen Pao owes Kleiner Perkins $276,000 for lawsuit costs: judge
#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
What evidence do you have that she actively uses it?
There've been some rather high-profile shadowbans (hellban/otherwise you're banned but don't know it) issued against people who did apparently did nothing but publicly state that Pao is a scam artist. Given that those comments don't actually violate any of Reddit's stated rules, there aren't many other reasonable explanations. Then again, I called every single one of them liars, publicly, by name, after the recent su…
So, you are saying they did nothing but slander her and are now surprised they were banned?
Re: Ellen Pao owes Kleiner Perkins $276,000 for lawsuit costs: judge
#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
While I wouldn't sign the petition and I don't care about her lawsuit or the recent subreddits that were banned, I'm turned off from reddit by their reaction to the fallout, particularly their fudging of the front page and /r/all and blocking comments mentioning an imgur alternative. I'm back to reading funnies from fark.com and now looking at voat.co. It's been a long time coming, longer than Pao has been CEO, and I…
Sources? That all sounds interesting.
The fudging of /r/all is from what I saw, the troll posts disappeared from the front page after about 4 hours but they were all there if you checked /r/all/top. After a few hours, they were all contained in /r/all/rising, every day they're still there. I actually didn't even know subreddits had been banned until I missed a touch on my phone and instead of hitting the reddit front page I hit /r/all on my phone, these are next to each other on the reddit is fun app on android.
The imgur alternative I mentioned is apparently slimgur.com. Here's a post with the story, this is where I read it from: http://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/39nang/reddi.... As of now, it has over 4k points, a mod presumably sharing the details (comments with slimgur links have to be approved by moderators). It was at the top of /r/all/rising when I saw it a few days ago
Re: Ellen Pao owes Kleiner Perkins $276,000 for lawsuit costs: judge
#56I highly suggest reading this before forming an opinion on the matter. Keep in mind who wrote it as well. https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/25617...
Very interesting - thanks for sharing. Is there a corresponding brief by the plaintiff? I'd like to see both sides of the story.
Re: Ellen Pao owes Kleiner Perkins $276,000 for lawsuit costs: judge
#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
What evidence do you have that she actively uses it?
There've been some rather high-profile shadowbans (hellban/otherwise you're banned but don't know it) issued against people who did apparently did nothing but publicly state that Pao is a scam artist. Given that those comments don't actually violate any of Reddit's stated rules, there aren't many other reasonable explanations. Then again, I called every single one of them liars, publicly, by name, after the recent su…
I would love to see these claims, please stop spreading FUD and show real evidence.
Re: Ellen Pao owes Kleiner Perkins $276,000 for lawsuit costs: judge
#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
(downvote at will, rephrased to make it a bit more polite) As far as I could tell, people were relatively content with Reddit even when it had bad stuff, but people started getting noisy when the censorship started. Comes down to a debate on censorship, which is admittedly quite divided. I don't condone hate speech, but its also sometimes tricky to separate hatred from a rational opinion about something. Ultimately y…
Freedom of speech does not apply here. Reddit is not a forum owned by the public, it's a business. Reddit is within their rights to remove any content as they see fit. Yeah, people complain once they realize walled gardens like Reddit start censoring whatever they choose only /after/ they get too big to stop. Same goes for closed ecosystems like the App Store and Google Play. Guess you should have read the fine print…
I've seen 8chan and after that I do not yearn for a fully open Internet.
Re: Ellen Pao owes Kleiner Perkins $276,000 for lawsuit costs: judge
#59"Pao, who has said she would appeal, has offered to drop her case for $2.7 million, Kleiner Perkins said in a court filing earlier this month."
I get that people will probably disagree, but she just seems to not make very good business decisions. Maybe I'm way off base, but I've read a bunch of well qualified lawyers say that juries are just plain unpredictable, and that no competent lawyer can "guarantee" to win. In that light, even if the $1M settlement wasn't what you're asking for, I would think it paints a better picture of you than losing and having to…
Anyone care to explain something that I might be missing?
Re: Ellen Pao owes Kleiner Perkins $276,000 for lawsuit costs: judge
#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
Freedom of speech does not apply here. Reddit is not a forum owned by the public, it's a business. Reddit is within their rights to remove any content as they see fit. Yeah, people complain once they realize walled gardens like Reddit start censoring whatever they choose only /after/ they get too big to stop. Same goes for closed ecosystems like the App Store and Google Play. Guess you should have read the fine print…
I've seen 8chan and after that I do not yearn for a fully open Internet.
haha :)