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and boy, does this need an amendment: when a farmer can be sued and forced to not grow food for his own family, and the suit is found valid because of Article I Section 8 we have a huge problem.
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#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
and boy, does this need an amendment: when a farmer can be sued and forced to not grow food for his own family, and the suit is found valid because of Article I Section 8 we have a huge problem.
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#53> Economic losses to US businesses due to lost sales and declining customer trust. Whenever I have a discussion with friends on this topic, this is what I focus on. For many people, safety has a higher political priority than privacy. However, when you start saying that mass surveillance kills jobs, it gets much more attention because economic issues are usually on par or above safety concerns. This is why I don't un…
There's your answer, isn't it? They don't want to stop these programs. They benefit from the economic espionage. Actions speak louder than words.
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#54I've often wondered if the NSA is constitutional. Not what they're doing, but the organization itself. The constitution, from my understanding, grants the federal government power to do certain things. Therefore, if the constitution doesn't specifically grant the federal government the power/ability to run, say the NSA (or other federal department), does that not warrant the entire thing unconstitutional?
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and boy, does this need an amendment: when a farmer can be sued and forced to not grow food for his own family, and the suit is found valid because of Article I Section 8 we have a huge problem.
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#56I love how people still make noise about NSA, while gladly using facebook.
I sometimes wonder about using any site--including HN. Facebook would be easy to give up(It actually makes me more depressed, and the people I want on there left, or never joined.) HN is hard to give up.
You should not expect privacy on computer systems you do not own. HN included.
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Wickard v. Filburn established that all activity, including washing your dishes , is economic activity that congress can regulate under the commerce clause.
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A mischaracterization of Wickard v. Filburn , which is nonetheless one of the worst decisions ever handed down by the Supreme Court - taking an unusual circumstance that obtained during WW@ and generalizing it to a fundamental aspect of the Commerce power. However, it's sort of off-topic here. Wikipedia has an extensive discussion of the case.
While, the court process and decisions occurred during WW2, the law and the acts which, under it, created the controversy occurred before US involvement in WW2, it was more about the Great Depression/New Deal than the War.
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#59The article uses few facts, or the facts aren't detailed. I admit doing that when I comment sometimes, but it's wrong and I expect a journalist to prove his point (and help us convince other people in turn). Example: > The deterioration of internet security as a result of the NSA stockpiling zero-day vulnerabilities Not quantified. It would be an awesome figure to reuse. > Brazil reportedly scuttled a $4.5 billion fi…
> The CEO of Artmotion, one of Switzerland’s largest offshore hosting providers, reported in July 2013 that his company had seen a 45 percent jump in revenue.
This tells us the company is large within the country, and Switzerland isn't exactly small potatoes.
I think what you are looking for is the PDF itself, not the summary of the PDF that is this article :)
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#60I love how people still make noise about NSA, while gladly using facebook.
Facebooks ability to use my kids and cat pictures is not comparable to government ability to read political activists or journalists emails. Random person ability to know what school I did go to is not as dangerous to justice as governments ability to read communication of defense in high profile case. By your logic, everyone who make noise about NSA should go underground to keep the right to complain.
Living in a country where rule of law is not to be taken for granted, it is a great source of concern to me that some idiot^H^H^H^H^H naive relative/friend/acquaintance might be unknowingly feeding organized crime with personal information about me and my family.
Unfortunately, Americans will always believe the world is America. When Facebook the corporation opens up their services to the world, they fail to acknowledge that they are changing stuff they are unaware of, but for good and ill. Their cavalier use or privacy data can and will (or most probably, is) be used by all sort of rouge agents, and not just to perform relatively petty crime like CC fraud or identity theft, but also to enable violent felonies.
NSA does not really bother me... it's the thug that shows up one good day and demands you to fork $200USD per week or else...