Average IQ in Europe by country (map)

Post by wil421 » Wed, Jul 02, 2014, 2:17 PM UTC

dragonwriter wrote: post #40

wil421 wrote: post #11

How can you get an accurate average IQ? I've never taken a formal IQ test in my life. I asked serval people around if they have and no one else has in their adult life.

> How can you get an accurate average IQ? The linked source has both maps based on only IQ data and maps based on IQ data adjusted with additional data from other assessments that have a demonstrated correlation to IQ results.

Post by dragonwriter » Wed, Jul 02, 2014, 2:20 PM UTC

seszett wrote: post #43

dragonwriter wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Unless other continents have significantly more intelligent people than in Europe (seems unlikely) Why does this seem unlikely?

It's unlikely that 1) there are significant differences in intelligence between different continents 2) that IQ, which is significantly influenced by education, would be lower in Europe where education is rather decent (probably at least in the better half, if you were to sort the world by quality of education).

Post by programmernews » Wed, Jul 02, 2014, 2:21 PM UTC

fsloth wrote: post #24

One of the authors of one of the reference materials (Tatu Vanhanen) of Lynn and Vanhanen is fairly suspect in his methodology of applying and analysing of IQ scores. Fact #1: It's not actually obvious what IQ scores measure, what amount of cultural bias the scores have and does it even make sense to compare IQ scores between different populations. Well, it's a number so yes, you can numerically compare it, but - as…

Post by chriscool » Wed, Jul 02, 2014, 2:51 PM UTC

programmernews wrote: post #51

chriscool wrote: post #42

I wonder why people focus so much on IQ instead of better metrics. In this article, "The play deficit": http://aeon.co/magazine/being-human/children-today-are-suffe... there are these very interesting sentences: "Other research, by the psychologist Mark Runco and colleagues at the Torrance Creativity Center at the University of Georgia, shows that scores on the TTCT are the best childhood predictors we have of future…

Probably because general intelligence is "the best-established, most predictive, most heritable mental trait ever discovered in psychology." (Geoffrey Miller, Spent)

    brain size
    speed of performing basic sensory motor tasks (“reaction time is a factor”, as the cop said in Blade Runner)
    height
    symmetry of face and body
    semen quality (!)
    health, physical and mental
    longevity
    sexual attractiveness for long term relationships"

Post by bane » Wed, Jul 02, 2014, 3:50 PM UTC

wil421 wrote: post #50

bane wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When I was young, as part of my move into the public school system (from a private school in my first and second grades), I had to take one. Later, I was identified by a gifted program and had to take an entire battery of tests for most of the rest of my schooling, including numerous IQ tests. In those circles, I didn't know anybody who had never taken an IQ test.

Interesting perhaps I took one but didnt realize it. How accurate can an IQ test for elementary schoolers be for an adult population? Maybe the test I took were not called IQ tests but were very similar. Most test I took were similar to what the SAT was, but I never got back an "IQ" score. Usually they gave us back a percentile score against the whole pool, but never an IQ number or range.