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OS X 10.9.3 Is Toxic

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Re: OS X 10.9.3 Is Toxic

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post #39

Experience a lot of crashes on my Macbook pro retina which is the latest model. Screen gets artifacts everytime the gpu swtiches from nvidia to iris pro or back. Coupled with the crashes that I now see on my Ipad air, I cant help get the feeling that things are starting to bitrot at Apple.

Anything with an A7 is a bit more understandable due to moving to 64 bit. 7.1 is already significantly better than 7.0 for 64 bit stability.

Re: OS X 10.9.3 Is Toxic

#53
post #42

Notably absent from the article, but spelled out in the comments, is that the author doesn't have an AppleID because he doesn't want to agree to Apple's terms, and therefore cannot acquire a kernel debug kit.

You're misquoting the author. He said that he doesn't have the time now to read through all the T&Cs.

Re: OS X 10.9.3 Is Toxic

#54

In an attempt to balance the discussion, I'm on 10.9.3 and I've had absolutely zero issues so far.

I've had no problems either. Early 2007 iMac, 2011 MBA, and 2012 mac mini all with 10.9.x (currently 10.9.3). I regularly switch out external displays on the iMac and MBA without issue. My coworker with an MBP (2012?) has had one kernel panic that I know about this week, however.

Yeah, my 2007 MBP is rock solid. It sounds like rMBP's with discreet graphics cards are having the most issues.

Re: OS X 10.9.3 Is Toxic

#55

In an attempt to balance the discussion, I'm on 10.9.3 and I've had absolutely zero issues so far.

10.9.3 has been pretty rock solid for me on my Mac Pro, as has every OS I've had on it since Leopard (10.5), although I skipped right past 10.7 to 10.8.2.

My Air has had some weird won't-wake-up issues from time to time since 10.9.3 came out. Maybe its a laptop thing?

I honestly haven't seen a kernel panic in years though on any of my computers though. The last time I did it was because I had a slew of bad sectors on my HDD.

Re: OS X 10.9.3 Is Toxic

#56
post #42

Notably absent from the article, but spelled out in the comments, is that the author doesn't have an AppleID because he doesn't want to agree to Apple's terms, and therefore cannot acquire a kernel debug kit.

You're misquoting the author. He said that he doesn't have the time now to read through all the T&Cs.

That's fair. He's saying that he doesn't want to take the time to read the terms and therefore cannot in good conscience agree to them. A rare breed, to be sure, as commenter Dmitry Minkovsky points out.

Re: OS X 10.9.3 Is Toxic

#57
post #42

Notably absent from the article, but spelled out in the comments, is that the author doesn't have an AppleID because he doesn't want to agree to Apple's terms, and therefore cannot acquire a kernel debug kit.

You're misquoting the author. He said that he doesn't have the time now to read through all the T&Cs.

this doesn't make it sound any better unfortunately. perhaps i might be unpopular in saying this, but he should just click the fuck through. either you want to spend your time getting stuff done, or spend your time prevaricating about the bush.

Re: OS X 10.9.3 Is Toxic

#58
post #45

I've been a Mac user for 6 months (MBP), I hardly tax the machine but it has crashed a dozen times. Twice today, and five times this week in total. Not since Windows 98 have I seen such an unstable OS. I've seen less BSOD in the last 15 years than I've seen kernel panics in the last week.

another mac user with the same problem. I've had 7 macbooks pros on various oses since 10.5 and osx is the first OS I ever just came to trust to run updates. But now, 10.9.x is a piece of shit. It hardlocks all the time (2-3 times a week), seemingly around external displays. I'm really feeling burned at this point. These 6-7 locks in the past 3 weeks since I got a new laptop are probably 50% of my macos crashes since…

I noticed that a system update installed itself yesterday at the end of the day. This morning I had two kernel panics (my first since getting the MBP a few months ago)... I'm also finding it seems tied to external monitors (both panics occurred when I tried to set an app as full screen on the external monitor).

I had to unplug and just stick with the retina display to get anything done.

Re: OS X 10.9.3 Is Toxic

#59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its data. The existence of crashes is evidence of something.

It may be data, but it is not a statistically significant amount of data. And there's an awful lot of selection bias in product complaints.

Crashes are not statistics. Code crashes or it doesn't. So something smells in Denmark.

Re: OS X 10.9.3 Is Toxic

#60
post #51
post #39

Experience a lot of crashes on my Macbook pro retina which is the latest model. Screen gets artifacts everytime the gpu swtiches from nvidia to iris pro or back. Coupled with the crashes that I now see on my Ipad air, I cant help get the feeling that things are starting to bitrot at Apple.

Anything with an A7 is a bit more understandable due to moving to 64 bit. 7.1 is already significantly better than 7.0 for 64 bit stability.

Safari crashes on a fairly frquent basis (> 10 times a day) even with the latest updates.
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