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Google is aggressively pursuing the edu market with Chromebooks, so what?
You can develop for Chromebooks, on Chromebooks, for free, and it's one-time $5 to distribute. That's what. The point is about access to the tools, the skills, and the ability to share; if the vendor controls any of those, FAIL.
Apple: The Obstacle to America's Future?
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Re: Apple: The Obstacle to America's Future?
#52The App store is a big step back for developers as far as healthy rapid iteration practices go. Week-long byzantine review cycles, expensive closed-source tools segregated to one platform, a single source for all downloads, inability to beta your product etc. This all set us back considerably with regards to where we are now on the web. For now Apple can get away with this, their lead is massive and the customers are…
Re: Apple: The Obstacle to America's Future?
#53The App store is a big step back for developers as far as healthy rapid iteration practices go. Week-long byzantine review cycles, expensive closed-source tools segregated to one platform, a single source for all downloads, inability to beta your product etc. This all set us back considerably with regards to where we are now on the web. For now Apple can get away with this, their lead is massive and the customers are…
This. This right here. This is why I detest Apple as a professional developer. The "hacker kids" issue is almost orthogonal, but I can't stand the idea of someone telling me what I can run on a device I purchased.
The app store, is a tradeoff. It's some inconvenience for developers in exchange for a trusted, safe marketplace for applications for consumers.
Re: Apple: The Obstacle to America's Future?
#54The App store is a big step back for developers as far as healthy rapid iteration practices go. Week-long byzantine review cycles, expensive closed-source tools segregated to one platform, a single source for all downloads, inability to beta your product etc. This all set us back considerably with regards to where we are now on the web. For now Apple can get away with this, their lead is massive and the customers are…
Why would the speed of App Store review affect rapid iteration? You distribute test versions during iterative development directly to testers. The App Store is for release versions.
Re: Apple: The Obstacle to America's Future?
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This. This right here. This is why I detest Apple as a professional developer. The "hacker kids" issue is almost orthogonal, but I can't stand the idea of someone telling me what I can run on a device I purchased.
nobody complained about this junk when it was nintendo and sega doing it, for a lot more. It's just that this time; 1) people have this illogical apple hatred and 2) people buy into google's spiel about being open. The app store, is a tradeoff. It's some inconvenience for developers in exchange for a trusted, safe marketplace for applications for consumers.
Development practices for the web era are nothing like those of 30 years ago, unless you like to do it wrong.
Re: Apple: The Obstacle to America's Future?
#56This is idiotic! Apple is not THE obstacle, it's just another platform. People who love apple get accused of being fanboys. What is the opposite of that? Some one who drags in Apple into any an all argument, and figures out a way to blame them for anything and everything. Teenagers who can't afford to pay $99 have a clear option, Android. It's like arguing that Ferrari is preventing kinds from chasing their dreams of…
When you're talking about K-12 edtech education, in many cases the kids have the patforms their schools/districts endorse. And in many, if not most cases, that's iOS. plus, we're not talking about $99 to publish, we're talking about $99 just to run your own code on your own device. I don't know about you, but when I was a 10yr hacker, that would have been a deal breaker.
Re: Apple: The Obstacle to America's Future?
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nobody complained about this junk when it was nintendo and sega doing it, for a lot more. It's just that this time; 1) people have this illogical apple hatred and 2) people buy into google's spiel about being open. The app store, is a tradeoff. It's some inconvenience for developers in exchange for a trusted, safe marketplace for applications for consumers.
Using examples from late 80s boxed software is absurd, and you also don't know anything about whether developers at the time complained about the restrictions or not. Development practices for the web era are nothing like those of 30 years ago, unless you like to do it wrong.
Yeah development practices have changed, but you also have a choice of platforms.
Any platform has tradeoffs and those tradeoffs have an impact on your development process. That's what a platform is. It's an environment, and that environment imposes restrictions. So there is a tradeoff between restrictions to benefits.
Re: Apple: The Obstacle to America's Future?
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Why would the speed of App Store review affect rapid iteration? You distribute test versions during iterative development directly to testers. The App Store is for release versions.
Modern day web companies push changes into production dozens of times a day, if not more often (see the illustrious etsy example). We have continuous integration and delivery for that reason. Having to wait a week for something to make it into production or to fix a bug is no longer acceptable.
Re: Apple: The Obstacle to America's Future?
#59The App store is a big step back for developers as far as healthy rapid iteration practices go. Week-long byzantine review cycles, expensive closed-source tools segregated to one platform, a single source for all downloads, inability to beta your product etc. This all set us back considerably with regards to where we are now on the web. For now Apple can get away with this, their lead is massive and the customers are…
Why would the speed of App Store review affect rapid iteration? You distribute test versions during iterative development directly to testers. The App Store is for release versions.
As simple as it is, this test takes at least one week. For critical bug fixes, it is simply unacceptable.