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Neuroon: Sleep mask for polyphasic sleep

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Re: Neuroon: Sleep mask for polyphasic sleep

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I did polyphasic sleep for three months. It is possible and it does work, but what is overlooked is how perfect your sleep schedule needs to be. When you're hitting all of your naps perfectly, you're really not ever tired and you wake up without an alarm usually. But... if you miss one nap, life is very difficult for a good 24-48 hours. Miss another nap in that timeframe and the problem compounds. Maybe this mask wil…

Did a 20min nap 20mins late not count for the cycle?

I did this a long time ago, so I don't remember exactly. Typically I would get my nap in on time, but sometimes wouldn't be able to fall asleep for some reason or another.

I think going to sleep 20 minutes late wouldn't be that big of a deal... 1 hour late would probably mess things up considerably.

Re: Neuroon: Sleep mask for polyphasic sleep

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post #36

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Pavlina is not exactly a reputable source. His ex-wife and business partner is a telephone psychic, and he takes her 'job' seriously in many blog posts. They're either both cranks, or scammers. In either case you shouldn't take him seriously.

Your "cranks, or scammers" assessment raises an interesting question. Let's assume psychic powers don't exist. If someone who believes in them calls a for-pay psychic hotline, with which of the following 'telephone psychics' will their interests be best-protected? (a) a psychic true-believer, who also cares about the caller (b) a psychic true-believer, who simply wants to maximize their own income at the caller's exp…

I went to Steve and Erin's house and talked with them for a few hours once. Erin is absolutely in category A.

Re: Neuroon: Sleep mask for polyphasic sleep

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That article is about biphasic sleep cycles, not polyphasic.

Biphasic is a form of polyphasic. And if two segments are better than one, why would you think three segments are definitely worse than one?

Yup. That's why my desk fan has 11 blades, and my car has 16 wheels and a 1024 valve engine.

Re: Neuroon: Sleep mask for polyphasic sleep

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I'm really interested in this project, but wish they had left polyphasic sleep entirely out of it. The sleep data they provide (REM and NREM monitoring, etc) seems fantastically useful, and the lucid dream induction is intriguing, if dubious; however, the inclusion of polyphasic sleep makes me suspicious of the scientific rigor of the project on a whole. It's making it hard to decide whether to go ahead and back - on…

I presume that the way the lucid dream induction works is by blinking an LED when the onset of REM sleep is detected. There are other products out there already that do this; the idea is that you'll train yourself to notice any blinking red lights or objects in your dreams and associate that with realizing that you're dreaming.

Whether it actually works or not I can't say.

Re: Neuroon: Sleep mask for polyphasic sleep

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Which makes no sense to anyone who has actually managed to switch to polyphasic sleep, even for just a week or two. Pavlina is so inconsistent in his description of his polyphasic sleep experiences that the consensus on the polyphasic mailing list I ran for a while was that he was a lying about doing it at all.

Do you know someone who actually managed to live like this for extended periods? I would be interested to hear.

My sophomore year roommates did Everyman for about 8 months. They got horrifying good at Call of Duty.

Re: Neuroon: Sleep mask for polyphasic sleep

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WHY OH WHY is polyphasic sleep so attactive? Read about it a little bit, and realize that it is totally, TOTALLY unnatural, nearly impossible to maintain for any length of time, and possibly dangerous to your long-term well-being. Go hack something else. Leave your circadian rhythms alone. You cannot redesign them or improve them. If you are working on a submarine, then maybe polyphasic sleep is useful, because of th…

Most of my life consists of "unnatural" things. This is hardly the right audience for an "appeal to nature".

That it is nearly impossible to maintain for any length of time explains why things that can make it easier to maintain is attractive.

The only real objection you are presenting is that it possibly is dangerous.

> Go hack something else. Leave your circadian rhythms alone. You cannot redesign them or improve them.

Do you have any actual basis for this claim, or are you just making another appeal to nature?

Re: Neuroon: Sleep mask for polyphasic sleep

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post #35

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>But... if you miss one nap, life is very difficult for a good 24-48 hours. Not to mention what happens when you get a cold.

What happens? I found that I somehow kept getting colds when I was trying to get into the Uberman schedule even though it was the middle of summer so I'd be interested to know if it's somehow related.

Well, I would get extra, extra sick, and really tired, and end up sleeping for 12+ hours. It would throw my schedule out the window.
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