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Ask HN: How Can I leave Syria now and get asylum in Europe (Germany)

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Re: Ask HN: How Can I leave Syria now and get asylum in Europe (Germany)

#51

Come to Sweden. The Swedish government hands out permanent residence to anyone who wants one. Got 10 kids? Not a problem. Bring them along, the Swedes will gladly pay for everything without questions. They'll pay you so much money each month for all your kids and to help you along that you'll be making more than most middle-management here. And if you do encounter a Swede that questions why you wanted asylum in Swede…

Is there any way to report people like him?

Why would you report him?

Re: Ask HN: How Can I leave Syria now and get asylum in Europe (Germany)

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post #26

Skip Germany and go to Sweden or England, where people are more than happy to speak English, and there is already many Syrians in Sweden, especially in Sodertalje. Sweden will accept you based on your skills far more easily than Germany, all you need is to find a job, and right now the market is open for a guy of your skills - programmers are in high demand. Look around on various Sweden/Stockholm job posting sites,…

> Not Germany, France, Italy, USA, Turkey they all suck

As a German, I really have to agree. Don't get trapped here. It's not a very friendly country, especially compared to the scandinavian ones. Xenophobia is also an issue. If I was seeking asylum in order to start a new life somewhere, I'd much rather try for London or Stockholm. Asylum in Germany is more like being in protective custody. Do not do this.

Re: Ask HN: How Can I leave Syria now and get asylum in Europe (Germany)

#53

Sorry about your situation. Are you Syrian? It may be easier to get to a country that does not require you having a visa then you decide on what to do later. As a dev, you can work remotely and earn money. Check this out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_requirements_for_Syrian_ci... . Best of luck man.

That's great information. I'd get out of there now; Equador doesn't require a visa and looks like a great place to go and work out what to do next.

Re: Ask HN: How Can I leave Syria now and get asylum in Europe (Germany)

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post #26

Skip Germany and go to Sweden or England, where people are more than happy to speak English, and there is already many Syrians in Sweden, especially in Sodertalje. Sweden will accept you based on your skills far more easily than Germany, all you need is to find a job, and right now the market is open for a guy of your skills - programmers are in high demand. Look around on various Sweden/Stockholm job posting sites,…

I approve this too. Don't go to Germany. As a German citizen I really hate to say this, but recently there has been a hitch in the media where there were protests by neonazi groups in front of asylum homes. Sadly, there are still people who see asylum seekers as potential job-stealers, showing them nothing but hate and would like to throw them all out, regardless of their skills. This is absolutely not the general op…

The same is true of England. We have the EDL who are a bunch of racist morons. But they are a tiny, despised minority, and certainly shouldn't deter anyone from seeking asylum here.

Re: Ask HN: How Can I leave Syria now and get asylum in Europe (Germany)

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post #46

I'm a Syrian hacker myself, and I can suggest you a better option. Go to Dubai, it is easy to get a visit visa first, if you are in damascus you can go through Beirut Airport as the path is still safe between the cities (got many friends coming through that route). then you can try to find a job in Dubai (should be easier as the economy is growing and since you speak the language), I myself know many startups and com…

This sounds like a good plan - you've got a definite escape route and high probability of getting a comfortable life a the other end.

Re: Ask HN: How Can I leave Syria now and get asylum in Europe (Germany)

#57
Germany is difficult, but not impossible. As an alternative you could try not to get asylum, but a blue card (EU). Unfortunately you'll need a university degree + yearly incoming in 2013 of 46.400 OR uni degree + special demand in germany (IT is such an area) + yearly income of 36.192.

The good thing is, according to my research the income requirement is floating. In other terms, you just need an income which is "usual for your region".

Of course, you would need a visa too.

What I am trying to suggest is you search an potential employer first and ask him to deal with the visa/eu card details. That way you wouldn't get the german citizenship in first glance; not sure if you really aim at that or if you would like to return after the war.

Anyway you can reach citizenship after living 8 years in germany (please note there are some restrictions, like no criminal acts, accepting liberal and democratic orders and so on).

I believe with your skills you might have a good chance to find a position in the Berlin or even Munich scene. Just prepare a CV and try to contact as many startups as you can. Look out for guides like this: http://www.berlinstartup.de/startup-guide.php http://berlinstartupjobs.com/

Good luck and take care mate.

Links: http://www.arbeitsagentur.de/nn_566780/Dienststellen/besonde...

http://www.arbeitsagentur.de/nn_616850/Navigation/Dienststel...

(german, despite they aim for migrants. Send them to potential employers).

Re: Ask HN: How Can I leave Syria now and get asylum in Europe (Germany)

#58

As an asylum-seeker you are not allowed to work in Germany. You will be “stored” in a camp and are forced to stay there until you can move back to Syria. Better go to a Scandinavian country, where you will be treated as a human beeing.

As a german I am ashamed to read this, because I have to agree. Embarrassing.

Re: Ask HN: How Can I leave Syria now and get asylum in Europe (Germany)

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post #13

There are some schemes in place that make it easier for non-EU nationals to get a work permit in Germany, it would require you to find an employer that pays a wage above a certain threshold (I believe it's called Blue Card). A really helpful english-speaking source for any expat information on Germany is the http://toytowngermany.com/forum forum, especially the lengthy thread on visas and work permits: http://www.toy…

The threshold for a blue card work permit as a developer has been lowered to 36.192 Euro a few months ago. You just need to get a proper work contract to be eligible for the visa.

Re: Ask HN: How Can I leave Syria now and get asylum in Europe (Germany)

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post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I approve this too. Don't go to Germany. As a German citizen I really hate to say this, but recently there has been a hitch in the media where there were protests by neonazi groups in front of asylum homes. Sadly, there are still people who see asylum seekers as potential job-stealers, showing them nothing but hate and would like to throw them all out, regardless of their skills. This is absolutely not the general op…

The same is true of England. We have the EDL who are a bunch of racist morons. But they are a tiny, despised minority, and certainly shouldn't deter anyone from seeking asylum here.

The English Defence League's stature within society can be easily understood by the fact that their homepage is outranked on google by the English Disco Lovers, a group set up specifically to steal their acronym.
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