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Re: Partial Tesla Model S recall

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Post by arethuza »

chli wrote: post #50
rdl wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Canon, if you're a pro photographer. I assume Nikon has a similar support system for professionals. It's pretty amazing. Test/Evaluation loans on $15k lenses for weeks, emergency equipment loaners, dedicated support at major events (Superbowl, etc.). The high end models of "regular" high end car manufacturers also get service like this -- at the Audi dealer I use for dealer service (Stevens Creek), they have 2 dedica…

Strange that you mention the Audi A8L since I saw one for the first time a week ago in Monte Carlo. It's very rare even in Europe. "The Audi A8 L is the first automobile in the world to be available with an integrated WLAN hotspot. A UMTS module provides the connection to the Internet."

Is that really a big deal? I have a MiFi device that cost £70 or so that does that and works a treat in cars.

Re: Partial Tesla Model S recall

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Post by VLM »

JackWebbHeller wrote: post #19
MichaelApproved wrote: post #11

A bit OT financial advice: it's almost never worth it to buy a single share. The reason is the commission will eat you up. Assume a low $7/trade commission. That could possibly cost you $14 round trip (purchase/exit). With Tesla ~$100/share, It'll have to go up 14% just to break even on the trade. Even if you just buy in single shares but exit in multiple shares to spread the commission, you still have to fade 7% com…

(Assuming this was meant as a reply to my comment) - I do understand that, I pretty much just bought a single share to say I had one, and see how it would perform, more as an experiment and out of curiosity than an actual business interest.

"I pretty much just bought a single share to say I had one"

Depending on your social circle, this gets done with kids a lot, especially with an old fashioned issued paper share instead of electronic. Decades ago Disney used to have quite an elaborate paper stock certificate for this purpose and they obviously used their professional artists and graphics designers. My local electric company in comparison looked little better than a secretary hand typed it, which might be how they made it... Perhaps they still do this. Its hard to find a corporation worth endorsing to my kids like this.

Also during the first dotcom boom there were at least a couple people collecting paper certificates from dotcoms and they still trade among themselves to this day as collectibles.

Just some interesting ideas to think about / google about.

Re: Partial Tesla Model S recall

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Post by SonicSoul »

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #38
angersock wrote: post #14

Very impressive service for what sounds like a blown weld. I wonder if this will result in a robot getting reprogrammed or welder getting retrained (or fired).

I for one don't think an employee should get the blame or punishment for a production error like this; after all, he was taught by someone, was instructed by someone, was overseen by a foreman / manager, and his work was checked (possibly numerous times) by QC and seen by other employees.

this is true up to a point. really depends if this was a first time such mistake was made, was it a bad judgement or was she following company practice? It is extremely hard for a manger or QA to insect 100% of every employees work.

Re: Partial Tesla Model S recall

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Post by gvb »

angersock wrote: post #14

Very impressive service for what sounds like a blown weld. I wonder if this will result in a robot getting reprogrammed or welder getting retrained (or fired).

"[D]ue to body side alignment adjustments in the factory, the bonded section of the joint was compromised and the welded section of the joint was weakened in some cars."

Sounds more like the frame isn't holding tight enough tolerances for the body to be "right," so they are pushing or pulling the frame into position on the factory floor. The forcing of the frame into position is what broke the weld.

Re: Partial Tesla Model S recall

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Post by krautsourced »

davedx wrote: post #49
Barraketh wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also slightly OT, but Loyal3 ( http://www.loyal3.com ) provides fee-free stock trading - both entry and exit. Unfortunately they don't carry TSLA on their platform yet.

How do they make money?

Looks like they are some sort of stock re-selling business of sorts? You can buy partial shares apparently. I guess they work like a fond, that you buy into and pick your own portfolio, basically?

Re: Partial Tesla Model S recall

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Post by gregparadee »

VLM wrote: post #52
JackWebbHeller wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

(Assuming this was meant as a reply to my comment) - I do understand that, I pretty much just bought a single share to say I had one, and see how it would perform, more as an experiment and out of curiosity than an actual business interest.

"I pretty much just bought a single share to say I had one" Depending on your social circle, this gets done with kids a lot, especially with an old fashioned issued paper share instead of electronic. Decades ago Disney used to have quite an elaborate paper stock certificate for this purpose and they obviously used their professional artists and graphics designers. My local electric company in comparison looked little…

I have one of these from Coca-cola

Re: Partial Tesla Model S recall

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Post by protomyth »

VLM wrote: post #52
JackWebbHeller wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

(Assuming this was meant as a reply to my comment) - I do understand that, I pretty much just bought a single share to say I had one, and see how it would perform, more as an experiment and out of curiosity than an actual business interest.

"I pretty much just bought a single share to say I had one" Depending on your social circle, this gets done with kids a lot, especially with an old fashioned issued paper share instead of electronic. Decades ago Disney used to have quite an elaborate paper stock certificate for this purpose and they obviously used their professional artists and graphics designers. My local electric company in comparison looked little…

A lot of Green Bay Packer fans have shares of the team (they had another stock purchase some years back). It makes for a nice thing to have framed during football season.

Re: Partial Tesla Model S recall

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Post by angersock »

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #38
angersock wrote: post #14

Very impressive service for what sounds like a blown weld. I wonder if this will result in a robot getting reprogrammed or welder getting retrained (or fired).

I for one don't think an employee should get the blame or punishment for a production error like this; after all, he was taught by someone, was instructed by someone, was overseen by a foreman / manager, and his work was checked (possibly numerous times) by QC and seen by other employees.

Oh, goodness no, I don't suggest that firing would be proper action!

Part of making new things is learning how to make them, and that means mistakes. I hope they get this sorted out and everyone comes away happy.

Re: Partial Tesla Model S recall

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Post by frogpelt »

cloudwalking wrote: post #5

The Model S does not need to be brought to our service center by the owner. Tesla will pick up the car at a location of the owner’s convenience, provide a Model S loaner if needed, perform the work and bring the car back to the owner a few hours later. Does anybody else offer service like this?

Actually you'll find that most dealers that sell cars at a similar price to the Model S offer these kinds of services.

$70-100K cars are a most definitely a luxury item.

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