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Thanks to Siri Recaps, your Apple Watch is always listening

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Re: Thanks to Siri Recaps, your Apple Watch is always listening

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Siri cannot tell whether I'm speaking English or French. It's not even close.

I have manually corrected "sale" to "sail" a thousand times post dictation, and Siri doesn't notice, it's "sale" always.

This transcription feature is gonna be a sad joke. This is Apple doubling-down on shit that doesn't work, and has never really worked.

Re: Thanks to Siri Recaps, your Apple Watch is always listening

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure why my comment merited a downvote. In any case, quoting from Mass law: https://malegislature.gov/Laws/GeneralLaws/PartIV/TitleI/Cha... The term ''interception'' means to secretly hear, secretly record, or aid another to secretly hear or secretly record the contents of any wire or oral communication through the use of any intercepting device by any person other than a person given prior authority by all parti…

Not sure why my comment merited a downvote. There seems to be a mass downvoting scheme on HN lately. I don't know who's behind it and what their motives are but I constantly see valid comments made within the last five minutes greyed out.

the usual: write anything anti ai / anti apple and the marketing bots report you en masse. Same shit that happens on a multitude of websites

Re: Thanks to Siri Recaps, your Apple Watch is always listening

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That’s going to be a hell of a security risk for us. I think it’ll be a no watches policy in the office going forward.

Surely you'd also have to ban phones and other devices with microphones? All these devices can trivially be set up to record, so if your goal is full security, you should be a no phones workplace.

Already do that in some situations.

Re: Thanks to Siri Recaps, your Apple Watch is always listening

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Quote: "Watching this Apple event tout how iPhones will soon be able to record ambient audio/conversations and transcribe "high level notes" for you. It's billed as private and end-to-end encrypted, but I think the bigger harm is the normalization of always-listening devices. It's creepy and not normal." https://mastodon.social/@zackwhittaker/117242363654801025

Yea were they not paying attention during the Microsoft Recall debacle?

They hope they can get away with it, because their fanboys will defend them for anything.

Re: Thanks to Siri Recaps, your Apple Watch is always listening

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That’s going to be a hell of a security risk for us. I think it’ll be a no watches policy in the office going forward.

The irony is that that would probably be Apple's policy with its own offices if a competitor came up with such a feature.

Re: Thanks to Siri Recaps, your Apple Watch is always listening

#56

Crazy that this is about to be normalized. Can't help but think the discourse of "they already record everything anyway" of the past couple years (even in the absence of complete proof) has played a part.

There's been plenty of evidence that nothing is recorded or sent back, hardly "absence of complete proof". People have identified basically everything coming from the network stack of an iPhone. This is already normalized in most modern office buildings. There are video and audio recording devices in virtually all common areas. This started a bit after private offices were done away with.

> People have identified basically everything coming from the network stack of an iPhone.

Scary. Shouldn't it be encrypted?

Re: Thanks to Siri Recaps, your Apple Watch is always listening

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I like the idea (we’ll see about the execs). It seems to record what I would remember anyway (“yesterday you and Joe and Anupam talked about going fishing a chose a date”) unless I was distracted. It’s like the cameras in the glasses. If all they said is what _I_ know (“That’s Julie who worked in the same group as you at company Z three years ago. You also ran into her at the grocery store shortly after you quit Z an…

I have prosopagnosia. Glasses that could tell me the name of the person talking to me would be amazing. But not if I have to give big tech data about everyone around me

I have it as well. This is how i explain it to regular folks: most people have an whole neural network dedicated to processing the human face, memorizing its feutures and matching them to the people in front of them. But when they look at trees they cant really distinguish a pine tree from another pine tree, unless the differences are extreme: one is brunt down, or has a weird shaped trunk, etc. If they try to recall a specific pine tree all they can recall is a messy green spiky blob. Why? Because their brain has no neural network dedicated to identifying trees. For us, the human face is as distinguishable as a tree

Re: Thanks to Siri Recaps, your Apple Watch is always listening

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Surely you'd also have to ban phones and other devices with microphones? All these devices can trivially be set up to record, so if your goal is full security, you should be a no phones workplace.

My device has no microphone. Promise. How would you verify?

Some services offer modified devices without a camera or mic for high-security environments. https://www.gadgetreview.com/the-iphone-with-no-camera-and-w...

I imagine this is why Apple has kept the mic array and camera as separate removeable components in their devices when pretty much everything else is integrated.

Re: Thanks to Siri Recaps, your Apple Watch is always listening

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Sincerely, what the fuck Apple? > Your data is not accessible to Apple either, thanks to Private Cloud Compute, and "independent security experts can verify this promise at any time". Siri Recaps auto-delete after seven days too. Apple is serious about getting users to trust this feature. Alright. Let say I’m an independent security expert, how could I verify? I can’t, right?

https://security.apple.com/blog/pcc-security-research/
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