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All of Winona Police Department's Flock cameras cut down and stolen

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Re: All of Winona Police Department's Flock cameras cut down and stolen

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post #23

Curious about the official YCombinator stance on this extremely unpopular YCombinator-backed startup (unpopular here at HN anyway).

I believe "money good" is YC's only guiding principle. HN is a nice resource, but let's not have any illusions about the morals of the owners.

Re: All of Winona Police Department's Flock cameras cut down and stolen

#52

Coincidentally, ran into a YouTube short testing how to cut down steel poles quickly yesterday, with battery powered tools. Sawzall, 1m 15s, circular saw 1m, circular saw like 20s. https://youtube.com/shorts/aAc3Kq0bFPs Yet to see anyone describe what to do once they are down. They for sure have all manners of wicked battery backed up trackers etc, I'm sure. (This would be highly illegal to do and you should not do i…

rocks and rivers my friend :)

Re: All of Winona Police Department's Flock cameras cut down and stolen

#54

I suspect there is more at play here than activism. In many 3rd World places you must conceal/hide surveillance cameras because they are a valuable asset worth stealing.

PSA: third world means non-aligned in the cold war. It's use in 2026 is meaningless at best.

Re: All of Winona Police Department's Flock cameras cut down and stolen

#56

> Police use the technology to investigate crimes such as hit-and-runs and to locate missing persons. > No suspects have been identified. Yeah, that tracks. > Camera data is owned by the police department and permanently deleted after 30 days. I assume this means that the police department deletes one local copy?

Flock has been known to lie and there isn't any reason to believe they are telling the truth. Why would they? There isn't some duty for them to tell the truth in an article.

Trying to parse what that sentence means is useless. It isnt designed to mean anything. Their various mouth pieces have claimed every manner of excuse.

Semantic games are for everyone else to play and lose. Corporations always win.

Re: All of Winona Police Department's Flock cameras cut down and stolen

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post #3

> Each camera is valued at approximately $3,000, putting the total loss at roughly $24,000. That cost falls directly on the Winona Police Department’s budget. Only if they replace them...

If you own a $20,000 car and I steal it, is your loss not $20k? (excluding depreciation etc)

Re: All of Winona Police Department's Flock cameras cut down and stolen

#59
post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, Flock plays a semantic game where data on Flock's servers os "owned" by the client, so Flock is not responsible for the content or management of the data.

Isn't that what you'd expect from a camera service provider? I'd certainly want any videos taken by my own cameras to be owned by me.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey_selfie_copyright_disput...

Re: All of Winona Police Department's Flock cameras cut down and stolen

#60

> Police use the technology to investigate crimes such as hit-and-runs and to locate missing persons. > No suspects have been identified. Yeah, that tracks. > Camera data is owned by the police department and permanently deleted after 30 days. I assume this means that the police department deletes one local copy?

> I assume this means that the police department deletes one local copy?

Ben Jordan got ahold of one of them and proved that they even had footage from the f'n factory they were made in! Flock is lying to cities and/or cities are lying to us

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