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All of Winona Police Department's Flock cameras cut down and stolen

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Re: All of Winona Police Department's Flock cameras cut down and stolen

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> Police use the technology to investigate crimes such as hit-and-runs and to locate missing persons. > No suspects have been identified. Yeah, that tracks. > Camera data is owned by the police department and permanently deleted after 30 days. I assume this means that the police department deletes one local copy?

> deletes one local copy.

I think you’re being a little too generous here.

Re: All of Winona Police Department's Flock cameras cut down and stolen

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WINONA, Minn. (Valley News Live) - Every Flock license plate reader camera operated by the Winona Police Department has been sawed off and stolen in what investigators believe was a coordinated theft. All eight cameras were taken Aug. 1, according to the Winona Police Department. A patrol officer first noticed the cameras had not sent any alerts in 24 hours. When officers checked the locations, they found the cameras…

LLM summary I suppose? Who would include "Anyone with information is asked to contact the Winona Police Department." in a HN comment?

Looks like a direct copy from the news site.

Re: All of Winona Police Department's Flock cameras cut down and stolen

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WINONA, Minn. (Valley News Live) - Every Flock license plate reader camera operated by the Winona Police Department has been sawed off and stolen in what investigators believe was a coordinated theft. All eight cameras were taken Aug. 1, according to the Winona Police Department. A patrol officer first noticed the cameras had not sent any alerts in 24 hours. When officers checked the locations, they found the cameras…

LLM summary I suppose? Who would include "Anyone with information is asked to contact the Winona Police Department." in a HN comment?

...LLM summary?

If you clicked the link and read the article, you'd quickly realize that they copy/pasted the article into a comment.

Re: All of Winona Police Department's Flock cameras cut down and stolen

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Coincidentally, ran into a YouTube short testing how to cut down steel poles quickly yesterday, with battery powered tools.

Sawzall, 1m 15s, circular saw 1m, circular saw like 20s.

https://youtube.com/shorts/aAc3Kq0bFPs

Yet to see anyone describe what to do once they are down. They for sure have all manners of wicked battery backed up trackers etc, I'm sure.

(This would be highly illegal to do and you should not do it, even to evil surveillance cameras that hoover up our lives to terrifying central databases, even if these are ragingly unpopular.)

Re: All of Winona Police Department's Flock cameras cut down and stolen

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> Police use the technology to investigate crimes such as hit-and-runs and to locate missing persons. > No suspects have been identified. Yeah, that tracks. > Camera data is owned by the police department and permanently deleted after 30 days. I assume this means that the police department deletes one local copy?

No, Flock plays a semantic game where data on Flock's servers os "owned" by the client, so Flock is not responsible for the content or management of the data.

Isn't that what you'd expect from a camera service provider? I'd certainly want any videos taken by my own cameras to be owned by me.

Re: All of Winona Police Department's Flock cameras cut down and stolen

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WINONA, Minn. (Valley News Live) - Every Flock license plate reader camera operated by the Winona Police Department has been sawed off and stolen in what investigators believe was a coordinated theft. All eight cameras were taken Aug. 1, according to the Winona Police Department. A patrol officer first noticed the cameras had not sent any alerts in 24 hours. When officers checked the locations, they found the cameras…

LLM summary I suppose? Who would include "Anyone with information is asked to contact the Winona Police Department." in a HN comment?

It isn't a summary. It is every word of the original article copied and pasted. I can understand doing that in something that is paywalled, but I didn't have any problems getting to the article.

Re: All of Winona Police Department's Flock cameras cut down and stolen

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> Police use the technology to investigate crimes such as hit-and-runs and to locate missing persons. > No suspects have been identified. Yeah, that tracks. > Camera data is owned by the police department and permanently deleted after 30 days. I assume this means that the police department deletes one local copy?

> Camera data is owned by the police department and permanently deleted after 30 days

There's so much going on in that sentence! What a thing of pure PR beauty.

What does "owned" mean in this sentence? Probably fairly little.

What data does it even refer to? Just the actual video footage? Does the statement include derived data like license plate reads or ML models?

And surely if data is flagged as relevant to an investigation it is not deleted, so is there an implicit "*unless retained"?

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