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Google Chrome Installed a 4GB AI Model on Your PC

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Re: Google Chrome Installed a 4GB AI Model on Your PC

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Indeed, you could even do something like this: await fetch("/multi-gigabyte-download"); It even works on non-Chrome browsers.

i think the point is that one actually burns disk space, while the other is just a nuisance for people on plans with limited data

You can store up to 80% of free disk space with indexeddb

https://rxdb.info/articles/indexeddb-max-storage-limit.html

Re: Google Chrome Installed a 4GB AI Model on Your PC

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yeah I'm lowkey pissed off people keep insulting google for giving them an offline version of coding enabled wikipedia that they get literally 0 data analytics from (just turn your wifi and ethernet off and use it offline after downloading it) what part of the 4Gb file offended people? the fact that ai runs on the edge reliably now?

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you're welcome for the total lack of reading comprehension on your part.

the edgy kids all hate google we get it but how the fk is a free offline ai model even a bad thing for privacy or even benefitting google in any way other than giving away privacy preserving tech for free

they obviously aren't good intentioned here, and benefit from the aggregate of data but OpenAI and Anthropic might as well be enemies of all humanity given they contribute nothing back to the knowledge that is useable offline without their exorbitant api costs

google should be better about their more evil tendencies but they now have sufficient competition that bootlicking is not an important thing to point out in the fight over open source(ish) models that allow people more freedom not less

its all moot when nobody can afford hardware in the first place that can run ai models so I guess I'm just yelling into the void here

Re: Google Chrome Installed a 4GB AI Model on Your PC

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i love the built in AI - i created this tic tac toe game with an AI trash talking opponent -> https://taf2.github.io/ai-tic-tac-toe-trash-talk/

The page uses 10% of my CPU while doing nothing on it.

At least no regrets purchasing that expensive CPU and the solar panels

Re: Google Chrome Installed a 4GB AI Model on Your PC

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I'm sorry but the AI model that was forced to write this article is struggling to explain why this is a problem. I get that a chrome update that suddenly balloons to 4gb+ is stupid, that's fair, but I'm not sure I understand the rest of the issues. They don't like the off-device AI features Google is forcing into everything, but they also don't like the on-device AI features since they don't do enough? Aside from tak…

The reality is that the move is great, it's a very cool and nice stuff, just that it takes bandwidth and space without letting the user know. A solution: New AI features are available for use offline, they will make you able to translate offline, get answers, summaries, etc, would you like to download / install them (~4 GB)? It is going to fix the experience in the UI. It's a significant misstep by Google in its form…

> But saying "Google = bad, me uninstall Google, if you use Google Chrome you are an idiot" are not a productive feedback for a product owner there.

I wasn't? I hope that wasn't directed at me since we seem to kind of agree otherwise.

Unfortunately the vast majority of Chrome users wont understand that prompt. Google decided that the Chrome installer should be 4GB, that seems like a large web browser, but is it that crazy compared to anything else? Teams on my Mac is taking 1GB+ just in Applications (not to say I'm terribly happy about that). Chrome installs its own updates and has for a very long time, ensuring we dont have to support super old browser versions, I'm not sure where the line is.

Re: Google Chrome Installed a 4GB AI Model on Your PC

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You'd think that if a technology is so good you don't need to force it on people.

It certainly shouldn't require masses of blank eyed fans all making highly emotional pleads to protect the sensitivity of their favorite logo. That's gross even by Microsoft standards.

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Re: Google Chrome Installed a 4GB AI Model on Your PC

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The page uses 10% of my CPU while doing nothing on it.

At least no regrets purchasing that expensive CPU and the solar panels

wait till you open my website, it will crash your GPU just from rendering the fractal

Re: Google Chrome Installed a 4GB AI Model on Your PC

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IMO If you're into tech and still use Chrome*, that's on you. If you are not, you probably don't really care unless you need extra space on your PC. *Except in your job, since you probably obligated to use.

Switched from firefox few months ago, I don't like google, but firefox has only few percent of market share currenly, many pages simply do not work properly with it, plus it has bugs on macos (like onmousover stuff), which simply make it unusable. Safari is fine, but also many websites (which sometimes you need to use like banking or gov) are not tested on it. The overall browsers situation is less than ideal.

> ...many pages simply do not work properly with it,...

Using Google's websites much, are we? FF works great everywhere except there. I think the official term for the bugs on these pages is "oops"...

I use FF everywhere except on G pages, where I use Brave.

Re: Google Chrome Installed a 4GB AI Model on Your PC

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Serious question - why would Google need to ask user consent to push a new feature / update to Chrome?

There's been a lot of new tech introduced through Chrome and eventually widely adopted and available everywhere. Without requiring user consent.

QUIC + HTTP/3, WebP, Service Workers / PWAs, WASM, WebRTC, View Transitions API

This feels like just another step of "make this new capability widely available so developers can adopt it if they want."

This one seems to be all on-device local capabilities. Not calling additional APIs or sending data off-device.

Is the argument just around "Don't use 4gb of drive space without asking me first"? What other issues does this introduce?

Re: Google Chrome Installed a 4GB AI Model on Your PC

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In their defense, it's an astonishingly good model for this size and you can use it for all sorts of cool stuff. Little demo of using this local model to inject AI into a page with a monkeyscript: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPi33D8DoQ0&t=3000s

That does nothing to defend Google since the quality of the model is irrelevant to the accusation.

The accusation that they pushed a new feature to Chrome users? They do that all the time? Why is this one alarming / needs special consent?
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