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Google Chrome Installed a 4GB AI Model on Your PC

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Re: Google Chrome Installed a 4GB AI Model on Your PC

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Post by gpm »

comboy wrote: post #16
guilhermeasper wrote: post #6

IMO If you're into tech and still use Chrome*, that's on you. If you are not, you probably don't really care unless you need extra space on your PC. *Except in your job, since you probably obligated to use.

Switched from firefox few months ago, I don't like google, but firefox has only few percent of market share currenly, many pages simply do not work properly with it, plus it has bugs on macos (like onmousover stuff), which simply make it unusable. Safari is fine, but also many websites (which sometimes you need to use like banking or gov) are not tested on it. The overall browsers situation is less than ideal.

> many pages simply do not work properly with it, plus it has bugs on macos (like onmousover stuff),

I use firefox on mac and I have simply no clue what you're talking about. Tons of people use firefox on mac quite successfully...

The only page that I know of that doesn't work is google earth - it doesn't work on linux either. (Technically it does, just incredibly laggy compared to chrome)

I can't think of a single macos specific bug. Or a single mouse over related bug.

Re: Google Chrome Installed a 4GB AI Model on Your PC

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Post by maccard »

comboy wrote: post #16
guilhermeasper wrote: post #6

IMO If you're into tech and still use Chrome*, that's on you. If you are not, you probably don't really care unless you need extra space on your PC. *Except in your job, since you probably obligated to use.

Switched from firefox few months ago, I don't like google, but firefox has only few percent of market share currenly, many pages simply do not work properly with it, plus it has bugs on macos (like onmousover stuff), which simply make it unusable. Safari is fine, but also many websites (which sometimes you need to use like banking or gov) are not tested on it. The overall browsers situation is less than ideal.

I’ve been a daily Firefox user on macOS and windows for a decade. I can count on one hand the number of sites that don’t work.

What sites do you have in mind?

Re: Google Chrome Installed a 4GB AI Model on Your PC

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Post by imnes »

From a year ago. They talked about adding the ability for Chrome to install Gemini Nano on-demand when a web app wants to use it. I guess this is the next step, making it always available by default.

Practical built-in AI with Gemini Nano in Chrome

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjpZCWYrSxM

Re: Google Chrome Installed a 4GB AI Model on Your PC

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Post by ghurtado »

intellectronica wrote: post #7

In their defense, it's an astonishingly good model for this size and you can use it for all sorts of cool stuff. Little demo of using this local model to inject AI into a page with a monkeyscript: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPi33D8DoQ0&t=3000s

That does nothing to defend Google since the quality of the model is irrelevant to the accusation.

Re: Google Chrome Installed a 4GB AI Model on Your PC

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Post by ecommerceguy »

DennisAleynikov wrote: post #17
intellectronica wrote: post #7

In their defense, it's an astonishingly good model for this size and you can use it for all sorts of cool stuff. Little demo of using this local model to inject AI into a page with a monkeyscript: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPi33D8DoQ0&t=3000s

yeah I'm lowkey pissed off people keep insulting google for giving them an offline version of coding enabled wikipedia that they get literally 0 data analytics from (just turn your wifi and ethernet off and use it offline after downloading it) what part of the 4Gb file offended people? the fact that ai runs on the edge reliably now?

Memory prices will adjust accordingly as this becomes the norm.

Re: Google Chrome Installed a 4GB AI Model on Your PC

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Post by cdmckay »

comboy wrote: post #16
guilhermeasper wrote: post #6

IMO If you're into tech and still use Chrome*, that's on you. If you are not, you probably don't really care unless you need extra space on your PC. *Except in your job, since you probably obligated to use.

Switched from firefox few months ago, I don't like google, but firefox has only few percent of market share currenly, many pages simply do not work properly with it, plus it has bugs on macos (like onmousover stuff), which simply make it unusable. Safari is fine, but also many websites (which sometimes you need to use like banking or gov) are not tested on it. The overall browsers situation is less than ideal.

Really? I use Firefox as my personal browser and everything works fine, including Google sites. Very rarely there’s a government site that needs Chrome, but I definitely wouldn’t say it’s “many” sites.

Re: Google Chrome Installed a 4GB AI Model on Your PC

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Post by encomiast »

jrflo wrote: post #12

Ever since IO earlier this year when google showed their AI strategy I switched to firefox and duckduckgo and couldn't be happier with the decision. I am by no means anti-AI but users should be able to choose when they want to use these tools, google seems to want to shove it down everyone's throat.

Did a similar thing, but went with Kagi + Orion. Also happy to have a few more free cycles from not thinking about Google.

Re: Google Chrome Installed a 4GB AI Model on Your PC

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Post by dinkleberg »

comboy wrote: post #16
guilhermeasper wrote: post #6

IMO If you're into tech and still use Chrome*, that's on you. If you are not, you probably don't really care unless you need extra space on your PC. *Except in your job, since you probably obligated to use.

Switched from firefox few months ago, I don't like google, but firefox has only few percent of market share currenly, many pages simply do not work properly with it, plus it has bugs on macos (like onmousover stuff), which simply make it unusable. Safari is fine, but also many websites (which sometimes you need to use like banking or gov) are not tested on it. The overall browsers situation is less than ideal.

That is weird, I've daily driven firefox for the better part of a decade (aside from when my employers have required chrome) and seldom encounter issues. I'm curious where you're hitting these. In fact, since ublock origin got removed from Chrome, the experience is far better on firefox.

Also, if everyone chooses to not use firefox because it has low market share, it'll remain low market share forever.

Re: Google Chrome Installed a 4GB AI Model on Your PC

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Post by bstsb »

tantalor wrote: post #18
sheept wrote: post #11

Any page can silently trigger an additional multi-gigabyte download for Chrome users by just calling this API: await LanguageModel.create() Since the model is installed once per browser, LanguageModel.availability() could probably also be used for fingerprinting.

Indeed, you could even do something like this: await fetch("/multi-gigabyte-download"); It even works on non-Chrome browsers.

i think the point is that one actually burns disk space, while the other is just a nuisance for people on plans with limited data
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