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America, 1926: A forgotten 100-year-old report

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Re: America, 1926: A forgotten 100-year-old report

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Sometimes I wish Strauss–Howe theory hadn't been hijacked. It seems noteworthy how similar (cyclical?) things are even if it's a coincidence..

What do you mean hijacked? I'm not familiar with that theory.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strauss%E2%80%93Howe_generatio...

The relevant sections for these comments:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strauss%E2%80%93Howe_generatio...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strauss%E2%80%93Howe_generatio...

Basically we've been in a "4th Turning" for about two decades, and the 4th turning typically ends in some sort of crisis (hence the name for it, "Crisis"): Great Depression/WWII in the previous one, the US Civil War before that, the "Age of Revolution" before that, etc.

The idea behind it is lessons learned last until the people who lived through the previous one die. So the 4 "turnings" repeat every 80-100 years, and some sort of major crisis is expected around now - hence talk of another Great Depression or WWIII.

I don't see what GP means by "hijacked", GGP is pretty much a direct reference to exactly what it talks about.

Aside, this meme is based on this theory: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/hard-times-create-strong-men - "hard times" represents the 4th Turning, though it's oversimplified, which makes it not really a great match.

Re: America, 1926: A forgotten 100-year-old report

#54
post #42

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The best geography of any country by a large margin and a non-ethnic culture that believes anything is possible and celebrates the ambition to try. The money is largely a side effect of these two things.

Europe probably has the “best geography” and the climate, though? Coastal California is probably one of the nicest places on earth but generally US is quite harsh.

You can’t have the best geography if you share a land border with an expansionist power, as Europe does with Russia.

Re: America, 1926: A forgotten 100-year-old report

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No offense but outside of money does the US have anything going for it?

The Mississippi river. Few understand what an advantage that river is.

And that’s in spite of the fact that we’ve in some ways crippled it with the Jones Act

Re: America, 1926: A forgotten 100-year-old report

#57

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It has felt inevitable to me for a few years now. The market != the economy but a major crash can still trigger a credit crunch that will materially affect regular people. Look at the insane valuations on some of these companies. They can't continue forever. As for WW3, well, there's a diaper-wearing senile old man, with an inferiority complex to boot, in charge of a nuclear arsenal and major conventional forces.

> As for WW3, well, there's a diaper-wearing senile old man, with an inferiority complex to boot, in charge of a nuclear arsenal and major conventional forces. How naive one must be to consider this NPC as the biggest threat to human kind since the dawn of man. It's not that single person who threatens the world, it's the complete American elite and the whole American society who push for wars and more wars, and the…

> It's not that single person who threatens the world

The question is: is he enabling them, or are they enabling him? I suppose it could be working in both directions. That said: while the "elite" were problematic before his second rise to power, they were also more constrained.

I also have some question as to who the elite are? Certain individuals are more prominent these days, while others have faded in the background. While it may feel good to apply a singular label to the wealthy (or any other group we disagree with), they are not a single ideological entity. It's probably more beneficial to align ourselves with those who agree with us, rather than alienating them based upon a metric that is only tangentially related to their values.

Re: America, 1926: A forgotten 100-year-old report

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It has felt inevitable to me for a few years now. The market != the economy but a major crash can still trigger a credit crunch that will materially affect regular people. Look at the insane valuations on some of these companies. They can't continue forever. As for WW3, well, there's a diaper-wearing senile old man, with an inferiority complex to boot, in charge of a nuclear arsenal and major conventional forces.

I think there's a compelling case to be made that WW3 started in 2014 when Putin invaded Crimea.

Putin started before that in 2008 when he invaded Georgia and no one said anything.

Re: America, 1926: A forgotten 100-year-old report

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post #42

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The best geography of any country by a large margin and a non-ethnic culture that believes anything is possible and celebrates the ambition to try. The money is largely a side effect of these two things.

Europe probably has the “best geography” and the climate, though? Coastal California is probably one of the nicest places on earth but generally US is quite harsh.

The US has pretty much all the possible biomes within its borders. Even active volcanoes

Re: America, 1926: A forgotten 100-year-old report

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I think there's a compelling case to be made that WW3 started in 2014 when Putin invaded Crimea.

If so, we haven't hit the equivalent of Sept 1 1939 yet. That's when WW2 is generally considered to have started, but residents of Manchuria, Austria and the Sudetenland probably consider it to have started earlier.

It's only considered to have started then because that's when France and Britain declared war on Germany, and that's who wrote the history books.
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