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Microsoft mocks Internet Explorer haters in new ad [video]

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Re: Microsoft mocks Internet Explorer haters in new ad [video]

#51

I actually kinda like the ad, because the guy could be me in a heartbeat, i even own the same keyboard xD. However the hate in me burns with the power of a thousand sons, when it comes to IE. The almost constant changes of MS standards with each new version of IE, inevitably breaks something, and will often require separate CSS styling.. And dont get me started on maintaining an app, that was built on IE6.. If I was…

a thousand sons? Man, you must have been bizE!!

Re: Microsoft mocks Internet Explorer haters in new ad [video]

#52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At least give Microsoft credit: IE10 is a modern, standards-compliant browser. And, you know, IE6 was actually the best web browser out there for a long time.

It was, though it was also designed with Embrace, Extend, Extinguish in mind. ActiveX anybody?

NaCl anybody?

Re: Microsoft mocks Internet Explorer haters in new ad [video]

#53

I actually kinda like the ad, because the guy could be me in a heartbeat, i even own the same keyboard xD. However the hate in me burns with the power of a thousand sons, when it comes to IE. The almost constant changes of MS standards with each new version of IE, inevitably breaks something, and will often require separate CSS styling.. And dont get me started on maintaining an app, that was built on IE6.. If I was…

At least give Microsoft credit: IE10 is a modern, standards-compliant browser. And, you know, IE6 was actually the best web browser out there for a long time.

> At least give Microsoft credit: IE10 is a modern, standards-compliant browser.

For how long? Hell, we know microsoft will have to be pushed kicking and screaming into supporting WebGL (and likely the fullscreen API as well as they go hand-in-hand), and they've just proposed their alternative to WebRTC (how not unexpected). See also: their proposing a brand new touch API, but not implementing the one which everybody is already using and the current standard.

> And, you know, IE6 was actually the best web browser out there for a long time.

IE5/Mac says "bitch, please". Also Phoenix was already a better browser than IE6 about 2 years after the latter's release.

Re: Microsoft mocks Internet Explorer haters in new ad [video]

#54
"Sucks less"? Well, that's totally going to make me feel tempted to give it a try...

Seriously, I started my web dev career at a time when IE had a market share of 80% and... I'm OK now.

I'm glad that Microsoft decided to embrace web standards and is committed to make IE easier to develop for but they'll have to do much more than this if they want to be taken seriously again.

Re: Microsoft mocks Internet Explorer haters in new ad [video]

#55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At least give Microsoft credit: IE10 is a modern, standards-compliant browser. And, you know, IE6 was actually the best web browser out there for a long time.

> At least give Microsoft credit: IE10 is a modern, standards-compliant browser. For how long? Hell, we know microsoft will have to be pushed kicking and screaming into supporting WebGL (and likely the fullscreen API as well as they go hand-in-hand), and they've just proposed their alternative to WebRTC (how not unexpected). See also: their proposing a brand new touch API, but not implementing the one which everybody…

> supporting WebGL

I think it's reasonable they might implement it on top of DirectX and then tell us how much faster it is.

> likely the fullscreen API as well as they go hand-in-hand

Why does Metro IE need the fullscreen API? Pointer lock maybe, but what's the use of going fullscreen in a fullscreen browser?

Re: Microsoft mocks Internet Explorer haters in new ad [video]

#56

This ad isn't about the merits of IE as a browser, this ad is about building a preformed thought in the common users mind whenever they hear someone bash IE. IE hasn't been the victim of bad PR, it has earned it's reputation through years of blood/sweat/tears by the hands of developers. Microsoft recognizes that they won't be able to change this attitude in the developer community, but that they can lessen the weight…

Sometimes when trying to make a point or advertise a product the simplest things are missed. In this ad "Try IE" is missing. The ad itself claims "progress" and "not as bad anymore"... but there's no call to action. I could make a fallible argument that the ad itself says IE is worse than all the other browsers - because it never says you should use IE... just that IE isn't so terrible.

It'd be a bad argument, but that's why I really don't like this ad - it's a (mostly) negative ad and emphasizes a negative point (how bad IE is perceived), which is not how you change people's thoughts. This video has many repetitions of IE SUCKS in it. If I were advertising a product, no matter what people thought of it, I wouldn't be flashing "my product sucks" all over the place for the majority of the commercial in order to make the last 5 seconds try and turn that on it's head.

You change preformed thoughts by repeating "my product is now great" over and over, not "my product isn't terrible anymore!"

Re: Microsoft mocks Internet Explorer haters in new ad [video]

#57
I have to admit that I had something personal against IE:

When I stated as an entrepreneur, the banks forced me to use IE as using any other browser will be full of incompatibility bugs. They made them on purpose.

So they forced me to use a Windows machine when I worked with Unix. I had to spend a thousand dollars so I could use my ebank and read-write my customer's Office documents(because MS also made very hard for Office documents for being standardized).

When I created my site I had to spend a lot more money so it worked on the main browser: Explorer. It was kind of hard to understand why it was so difficult to make something that worked in all browsers, it was always Microsoft fault there.

I calculated that I doubled my expenses because of non expected stupid incompatibility bugs on my web site. The people that made it really cursed the Redmon company.

The moment I could jump ship and work without Windows or Explorer I experienced an Enlightenment, a liberation: Now I just don't hate them, I simply don't care because I know the only reason they are doing the right things is because they lost the monopoly in some areas and had been forced to react.

Good for them, I prefer "don't be evil" than "embrace, extent, and extinguish" for now.

Re: Microsoft mocks Internet Explorer haters in new ad [video]

#59
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wishful thinking, MS... nobody gives a damn about your browser anymore

As I understand it the problem they're trying to tackle here is the opposite. That is, that some people still give too much of "a damn" about their browser and convince normal users to move away from it.

When I see an IE ad my first reaction is: "Wait, MS is still making a browser? How odd. Did not know that."

The reaction after that is: "Hmph. I wonder if it runs on any OS I run. (brief google) Nope, I guess not!"

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