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Several injured in Boeing 787 nose-gear collapse in Frankfurt

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Re: Several injured in Boeing 787 nose-gear collapse in Frankfurt

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Not yet at the https://avherald.com/

No reason to downvote. The reason is because incidents on avherald get many times lots of comments both from professional pilots as well as mechanics.

This one even better: https://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1510091&...

https://www.reddit.com/r/aviation/comments/1twkg45/lufthansa...

Video: https://x.com/flightradar24/status/2062510866981924920?s=20

Re: Several injured in Boeing 787 nose-gear collapse in Frankfurt

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yikes, mojibake in 2021. edit: actually, how did that happen? The apostrophes show up correctly, they’re just all preceded by a  that doesn’t seem to represent anything?

The page is declared as ISO 8859-1, but the actual bytes of the text appear to be UTF-8. In UTF-8, characters from U+0080 to U+00AF happen to be encoded as C2 . For example, U+0092 is encoded as C2 92. C2 in ISO 8859-1 is ””. U+0092 is the control code Private Use 2 in Unicode, and 92 is the same in ISO 8859-1. However, the standard Western Windows code page 1252 extends ISO 8859-1 by assigning “’” (right single quo…

Delicious, thank you!

Re: Several injured in Boeing 787 nose-gear collapse in Frankfurt

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The page is declared as ISO 8859-1, but the actual bytes of the text appear to be UTF-8. In UTF-8, characters from U+0080 to U+00AF happen to be encoded as C2 . For example, U+0092 is encoded as C2 92. C2 in ISO 8859-1 is ””. U+0092 is the control code Private Use 2 in Unicode, and 92 is the same in ISO 8859-1. However, the standard Western Windows code page 1252 extends ISO 8859-1 by assigning “’” (right single quo…

Delicious, thank you!

I edited my post after verifying the actual bytes, it turned out to be slightly more complicated.

Re: Several injured in Boeing 787 nose-gear collapse in Frankfurt

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post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yikes, mojibake in 2021. edit: actually, how did that happen? The apostrophes show up correctly, they’re just all preceded by a  that doesn’t seem to represent anything?

The page is declared as ISO 8859-1, but the actual bytes of the text appear to be UTF-8. In UTF-8, characters from U+0080 to U+00AF happen to be encoded as C2 . For example, U+0092 is encoded as C2 92. C2 in ISO 8859-1 is ””. U+0092 is the control code Private Use 2 in Unicode, and 92 is the same in ISO 8859-1. However, the standard Western Windows code page 1252 extends ISO 8859-1 by assigning “’” (right single quo…

this one does g11n....

Re: Several injured in Boeing 787 nose-gear collapse in Frankfurt

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Same thing happened to British Airways a few years ago on a 787, a misplaced security pin that was inserted in the wrong place during a maintenance operation. There are two very similar holes next to one another that can receive the pin, there's a picture at the bottom here : https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/318989 Wondering if the same mishap is behind it again.

Yikes, mojibake in 2021. edit: actually, how did that happen? The apostrophes show up correctly, they’re just all preceded by a  that doesn’t seem to represent anything?

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Re: Several injured in Boeing 787 nose-gear collapse in Frankfurt

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Delicious, thank you!

I edited my post after verifying the actual bytes, it turned out to be slightly more complicated.

The double-encoding path gets you there too: the original UTF-8 \xE2 \x80 \x99 mis-decoded as iso-8859-1 or Windows-1252 and saved back as UTF-8 gives \xC3 \xA2 \xC2 \x80 \xC2 \x99, which in Windows-1252 renders as ’. A WYSIWYG cleanup replacing that mojibake with the Windows-1252 ' (byte 0x92) and saving back as UTF-8 gets you to \xC2 \x92 on disk.

Edit: Although maybe that's not the most parsimonious explanation.

Re: Several injured in Boeing 787 nose-gear collapse in Frankfurt

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The 777 and 787 programs have never seen a passenger fatality resulting from an engineering defect. That is a monumental achievement in light of the passenger miles served. Boeing has its problems, but that record speaks for itself

From 787 wikipedia page: "On June 12, 2025, Air India Flight 171, an 11-year-old Boeing 787-8 registered as VT-ANB[398] operating from Ahmedabad Airport to London Gatwick Airport, crashed into the hostel building of B. J. Medical College shortly after takeoff. According to the preliminary Aircraft Accident Investigation Bureau report released on July 8, 2025, the crash was caused by both engines shutting down after t…

That has not been determined to have been an engineering defect.

Re: Several injured in Boeing 787 nose-gear collapse in Frankfurt

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Same thing happened to British Airways a few years ago on a 787, a misplaced security pin that was inserted in the wrong place during a maintenance operation. There are two very similar holes next to one another that can receive the pin, there's a picture at the bottom here : https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/318989 Wondering if the same mishap is behind it again.

The report on that incident says there was a hardware modification to make this impossible, to be incorporated before Jan 2023. (It also says this happened to Boeing in 2018 and they ignored it, of course)

Wonder why they don't just grab a huge permanent Sharpie and write in huge letters "Do not insert pin here" on one hole and "Insert pin here" on the other hole.

I'm actually serious, it seems to me they resist these kind of short-term helpers that would save lots of injuries.

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