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Re: Nvidia RTX Spark

#51
Awesome, won't be buying it all at current prices but once they calm down, I will very much like to get one.

Around 2-3K USD something with a good GPU + CPU + 128GB of integrated RAM is just going to be an awesome experience.

Considering Mac options are north of 5K+ even on a regular day.

Re: Nvidia RTX Spark

#52

This will crush the M5 Max going by the numbers. I'm curious to see how much they end up costing

Nah, still ~300GB/s memory bandwidth. That will be slower than the M5 max, by a wide margin for LLM inference.

Re: Nvidia RTX Spark

#53
post #51

Awesome, won't be buying it all at current prices but once they calm down, I will very much like to get one. Around 2-3K USD something with a good GPU + CPU + 128GB of integrated RAM is just going to be an awesome experience. Considering Mac options are north of 5K+ even on a regular day.

DGX Spark is $4700, so I kind of doubt that RTX Spark's top configs will be cheaper than that.

Re: Nvidia RTX Spark

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I really like this, but I think the reason Apple Silicon took off was that Apple sort of forced devs to support ARM. Not sure if Microsoft can do the same for Windows…

Microsoft can do the same for windows - they need to address the fat bundle solution that Apple came up with, but for Windows, though ..

Re: Nvidia RTX Spark

#55
After nvidia's many years of neglecting Linux, paired with direct Microsoft's involvement? Are we going to trust them, to allow installing Linux in these easily?

I don't think so.

This most likely be a winmodem situation, again

Re: Nvidia RTX Spark

#56

I have no idea how powerful or power efficient these guys are, but this seems to be the first step in a bigger push towards Windows on ARM (without loosing gaming). I think more announcements will follow soon from other companies.

It's worth noting that Nvidia power management on Linux has been absymal. There also aren't any of the usual power management options to see how much power things are using, which is quite atypical for a modern system.

Nvidia really threw stuff over the wall with the DGX Spark release. They don't seem to really care. I sort of think they'll spend a little more time on Windows, where there's no pesky upstreaming to do and they can just do whatever, but man, it's such typical hubris from Nvidia to build such an expensive box with good chips but make it basically unsupportable and roasty hot all the time.

You also generally have to run an ever more stale two year old Ubuntu derived DGX OS to get anywhere, with bespoke kernel and drivers all. None of it is well supported, none of it just works like a comparable PC or even well behaved arm system would.

As for other ARM, there were rumors AMD Sound Wave is/was going to be a ~10W arm APU, but there hasn't been much said about it lately. Honestly given the ram crunch, it's maybe just not worth trying to build a system with a cheap core, if the rest of your costs are going to stay so stratospheric. https://www.techpowerup.com/341848/amd-sound-wave-arm-powere...

Re: Nvidia RTX Spark

#57
post #51

Awesome, won't be buying it all at current prices but once they calm down, I will very much like to get one. Around 2-3K USD something with a good GPU + CPU + 128GB of integrated RAM is just going to be an awesome experience. Considering Mac options are north of 5K+ even on a regular day.

DGX Spark is $4700, so I kind of doubt that RTX Spark's top configs will be cheaper than that.

The DGX also contains the 200 GbE networking and linux support.

Re: Nvidia RTX Spark

#59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

DGX Spark is $4700, so I kind of doubt that RTX Spark's top configs will be cheaper than that.

The DGX also contains the 200 GbE networking and linux support.

Laptops will also have to contain a much tighter configuration, display, keyboard, camera, etc ;)
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