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Bambu Lab is abusing the open source social contract

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Re: Bambu Lab is abusing the open source social contract

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I honestly don't get it. They have more to win by doing things right than with this crap they pull out . Never getting a Bambulab.

Some managers are fine screwing power users when they feel they are big enough. I will never buy a Chamberlain garage door opener for their similar stance against the Home Assistant community

Re: Bambu Lab is abusing the open source social contract

#52

I honestly don't get it. They have more to win by doing things right than with this crap they pull out . Never getting a Bambulab.

Do they? They came to the realisation that they control a sufficient fraction of the market that your preference as a consumer no longer matters to them.

Re: Bambu Lab is abusing the open source social contract

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Full disclosure: I've never owned a Bambu because I've never loved the idea of a "closed" ecosystem 3D printer, however I have used them, and am very familiar with the 3d printing space beyond Bambu. For anyone considering alternatives: You should know that almost all other 3D printers expect you to know a little more about how they actually work than Bambus. Bambus are as close as you can get to a "just works" type…

Prusa are pretty much plug and play these days, especially the Core One line-up.

You're right that they're expensive but you get free human support 24x7, you get an open platform, lots of contributions to open source (even Bambu Studio is a fork of Prusa Slicer), and they pretty much go on forever.

My Core One+ started its life as an original MK3 and went through each iteration of upgrades, and it works like new. I'm now waiting for an INDX upgrade for it.

IMO the main drawback of consumer Prusa offerings is the lack of good chamber heating for more advanced materials. I can print PC on my Core One+ in the summer with the chamber at 45℃ (good enough for most uses, but 60 would be better), but in the winter it becomes a lot harder.

The Core One L is supposedly better in that regard but I've seen reports that it's still not ideal.

Other than that, I feel the extra cash pays itself back in the long run.

Re: Bambu Lab is abusing the open source social contract

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> Some people are okay with using OrcaSlicer and printing through Bambu's cloud. It's convenient if you're on the road and want to start a print on your printer at home Do such people really exist? Are there actually people who are comfortable blindly starting a robot in their home, with a part that heats to 150 C, and then hope that everything will work out and when they get home the part will be waiting for them, i…

Closer to 200C. But the gantry constraints movement, the 200C nozzle can only really touch its holder, the print bed, the filament and some metal or silicon cleaning surfaces. None of those are flamable at those temps.

Maybe if it knocks itself down to the ground? But I worry much more about faulty wiring or stuff like that. And that's more a function of the brand and model

Re: Bambu Lab is abusing the open source social contract

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's what homeowner's insurance is for. I often run my printer when I'm not home.

> That's what homeowner's insurance is for This mentality is baffling to me. No, insurance isn't there so you can knowingly do risky things, it's there in case something accidentally happens. Would you say the same about juggling chainsaws? "That's what health insurance is for"? Absolutely crazy to me

Driving down the street is risky. Owning a home is risky. It's all a matter of degrees, and insurance doesn't deny coverage for 3D printers, QED that's what it's for.

Re: Bambu Lab is abusing the open source social contract

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post #12

We have a Bambu Lab P2S at work. I was considering to buy one myself, because of the ease of use and relative affordability. What printers are similarly priced and have similar specs, for someone relatively new to 3D printing?

> What printers are similarly priced and have similar specs, for someone relatively new to 3D printing? None, really. Prusa printers are good enough though. If you value freedom and privacy, its worth a few extra dollars.

It would have been so easy for Bambu to embrace freedom and privacy and continue to enjoy our loyalty all the way to the bank, but apparently they've got to burn down what they've got.

I've got an a1 mini myself, and I'm not aware of anything comparable on the market, but there's a clear need for some competition now.

Re: Bambu Lab is abusing the open source social contract

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm guessing a Pixel with GrapheneOS

And I'm guessing an iPhone. Internet influencers - nothing against this one, I like his videos, I think I got JetKVM because of one video - are a persona which is different from their person. They sell something in their videos and do things in videos that are different from their true self. Videos are primarily done to drive more subscribers. I don't dispute that he might be an exception but he has >1M subscribers w…

I use Linux as a daily driver, write and modify kernel (mainline and out of tree) and userspace drivers, have reverse engineered various things. ie beyond most of the HN peanut gallery. That said I use an iPhone because I have a day job and nothing “open” is worth dealing with.

Re: Bambu Lab is abusing the open source social contract

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A User Agent not being suitable for any kind of authorisation aside, given this was published under AGPL, is any kind of legal action even possible? Or is this like DMCA abuse, technically not grounded in any legal basis (and in the case of knowingly filing an improper DMCA claim, clearly illegal but never prosecuted) and solely a scare/might makes right tactic?
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