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Animated 'Firefly' Reboot in Development from Nathan Fillion, 20th TV

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Re: Animated 'Firefly' Reboot in Development from Nathan Fillion, 20th TV

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They can probably get a Shepherd Book voice actor much easier than a Ron Glass doppelgänger for a live show.

With AI they good probably replicate it perfectly. For good and bad.

Just bad imo. No reason to do that when there are many talented voice actors out there who will do just fine.

Re: Animated 'Firefly' Reboot in Development from Nathan Fillion, 20th TV

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The benefit of it being animated is that if it sucks we can just ignore it, if it’s good we can embrace it. If they went the full live-action route there’s a higher chance it tarnishes the legacy of the original. I didn’t like Star Trek: Lower Decks but it didn’t make me feel like Trek has been ruined like Strange New Worlds and Starfleet Academy did.

If you didn't like Lower Decks you probably really never liked Star Trek. Strange New Worlds and Starfleet Academy also happen to be better than... a significant portion of the classics (DS9 will never be surpassed and that's okay). Lower Decks in traditional Trek fashion had a rough season 1 but was stronger later. SNW an Academy had probably the best two season 1 performances of any Star Trek shows ever produced. T…

I couldn't get into Lower Decks. And I love Star Trek, so maybe you don't understand the full range of Star Trek fans. I personally love NG but couldn't get into DS9 or Voyager. I disliked Discovery but I love SNW. There are all kinds of Star Trek fans.

Re: Animated 'Firefly' Reboot in Development from Nathan Fillion, 20th TV

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I agree with most of the other comments so far, the "magic" of the show is going to be hard to replicate. My bull case for this is that Nathan Fillion and crew have had 20 years of exposure to this fact and likely know what they're getting into and how to do it right. The only question is if they'll be able to execute. I'm excited!

Say what you will about Joss Whedon, but his use of a colorful character palette & quirky, punchy style of dialog have gone from niche to mainstream in the 30+ years since Buffy . Mostly thanks to Whedon’s and his imitators’ escalating success with that formula: The Avengers , for example, took Marvel from a series of above-average superhero hits to total cultural dominance. There’s plenty of writing talent out there…

I'm a little nervous about this affecting it negatively. Back when Buffy and Firefly were on the air, they felt so unique due to the dialogue style. But now that'll just seem like every single generic superhero movie. Hopefully it can buck that feeling somehow.

Re: Animated 'Firefly' Reboot in Development from Nathan Fillion, 20th TV

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Loved the show, I have no expectations for this. It's just too easy to not be "right" for all sorts of incompatible different definitions of "right". But, the animated series a good idea and smart. First, it lets Nathan and Morena participate considering they're pretty busy with their prime time series. Second, there's no reason to "jump ahead 20 years". They can pick right up from where they left off after they figu…

If there’s any chance at success, animated is probably it. Alternatively they could remake the show with a different cast portraying some other crew with a whole new storyline. Of course that’s not a reboot but it could capture the same kind of magic the first did with the right writers and cast. It could even be set before, after, or contemporaneously with the original. It would be a big expensive gamble though.

Yeah, I don't think it would ever work with a different cast.

Re: Animated 'Firefly' Reboot in Development from Nathan Fillion, 20th TV

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Lets be real - Firefly was very good. But the reason it holds "magic" status as far as series goes is mostly because of its rarity, and the final movie where a major likable character was killed off, with everyone wishing for a sequel. Its same with anything really - car enthusiasts obsess over limited runs of older cars because they are rare, not because they are good, and people were lining up at McDonalds when the…

> Lets be real - Firefly was very good. But the reason it holds "magic" status as far as series goes is mostly because of its rarity, and the final movie where a major likable character was killed off, with everyone wishing for a sequel. Strongly disagree. The Firefly series was always exceptional. I watched it on DVD around the time it came out (maybe just after it was cancelled) and waited for the movie. The movie…

I agree with you. Star Trek TOS only had two good seasons. Season 3 was widely panned. And it still spawned a massive franchise.

Plus there have been dozens of one-series sci-fi shows (Almost Human, Terra Nova, Space:Above and Beyond, etc.) and none have the same pull as Firefly.

Re: Animated 'Firefly' Reboot in Development from Nathan Fillion, 20th TV

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I am honestly baffled by how much people love firefly. I don't get it. It's a slightly campy western-style scifi. It's not bad but it's not 'still talking about it for the next few decades' material IMO. Theres a zillion littl scifi channel series with essentially the same quality as far as I can figure.

Like what? Maybe I'm missing some great shows.

Firefly has memorable characters, great acting/actors, and good chemistry and good writing. And it's especially memorable because the show got fucked over so people can imagine a lot more greatness than was delivered.

Re: Animated 'Firefly' Reboot in Development from Nathan Fillion, 20th TV

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I am honestly baffled by how much people love firefly. I don't get it. It's a slightly campy western-style scifi. It's not bad but it's not 'still talking about it for the next few decades' material IMO. Theres a zillion littl scifi channel series with essentially the same quality as far as I can figure.

What are the sci-fi channel series?

Re: Animated 'Firefly' Reboot in Development from Nathan Fillion, 20th TV

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A cartoon is cool but a continuation using original actors where possible and recast versions WITH ai video generation is something that can also happen in the future too. In theory it can be close to the real actors continuing it in early 2000s

> recast versions WITH ai video generation Eww, absolutely not.

Honestly, I think in the next year or two, you'll be able to feed an LLM the animated show and have it convert it to pseudo-liveaction.

For better or worse.

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