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Re: Animated 'Firefly' Reboot in Development from Nathan Fillion, 20th TV

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Post by emmelaich »

GMoromisato wrote: post #8

While I'm definitely going to give this a chance, I'm not going to get my hopes up. Firefly was a perfect storm--it was the combination of Wheadon, Tim Minear, and the entire cast. Personally, I think the writing is what made Firefly work, and without Wheadon or Minear, I don't know if it will rise to the same level. Moreover, I felt Serenity was a good conclusion to the original mythology (River, Alliance, etc.). If…

Agree, Whedon's script is essential to the popularity. I'd love it happen tho if they can do a good enough job. As well as River etc, I'd like to Shepherd Books back story.

Re: Animated 'Firefly' Reboot in Development from Nathan Fillion, 20th TV

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Post by emmelaich »

ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #37
throwatdem12311 wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s sad that Ron Glass is no longer with us and can’t reprise his role as Shepherd Book.

I liked him in Barney Miller, so he and I go way back...

Oh man, Barney Miller, Night Court, WKRP,... golden age of US TV dramedy.

Re: Animated 'Firefly' Reboot in Development from Nathan Fillion, 20th TV

#43

Post by Arcuru »

Izkata wrote: post #36
nerdjon wrote: post #24

I am... cautiously optimistic without Whedon being involved. But also very curious how this will work since it doesn't seem like it's a reboot, unless I missed something. Tara Butters from Dollhouse being involved makes me a feel a bit better, since I love Dollhouse (actually rewatching it right now). Now I can only hope this actually succeeds and maybe Dollhouse can get similar treatment. I am sure some will be upse…

Okay so a little bit of out of universe trivia on Dollhouse: It was planned for 5 seasons. With the risk of cancellation, the second season and the two Epitaph episodes were a severely compressed telling of 4 seasons of plans. And, personally I think it worked well. Something similar happened to Babylon 5, Manifest, Jericho (IIRC), Firefly (Serenity was the original ending that would have played out over multiple sea…

Oh wow, I really enjoyed Dollhouse but I didn't know that! I was always confused why Season 2's plot went by so quickly. Thanks.

Re: Animated 'Firefly' Reboot in Development from Nathan Fillion, 20th TV

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Post by emmelaich »

whartung wrote: post #17
warpspin wrote: post #5

My wife used to fall for every Firefly season 2 hoax on social media in the past because she wished it to be true. It was very funny when I could come to her to announce there will be a season 2. Mixed feelings about it being animated. The older I become, the more I have trouble relating to painted characters, no real clue why, so I couldn't even enjoy things I should have enjoyed like Arcane. Also, of course, no She…

They can probably get a Shepherd Book voice actor much easier than a Ron Glass doppelgänger for a live show.

With AI they good probably replicate it perfectly. For good and bad.

Re: Animated 'Firefly' Reboot in Development from Nathan Fillion, 20th TV

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Post by ChrisMarshallNY »

emmelaich wrote: post #42
ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I liked him in Barney Miller, so he and I go way back...

Oh man, Barney Miller, Night Court, WKRP,... golden age of US TV dramedy.

I recently tried watching the new Night Court reboot.

Didn’t really interest me.

Re: Animated 'Firefly' Reboot in Development from Nathan Fillion, 20th TV

#46

Post by D13Fd »

ActorNightly wrote: post #38
GMoromisato wrote: post #8

While I'm definitely going to give this a chance, I'm not going to get my hopes up. Firefly was a perfect storm--it was the combination of Wheadon, Tim Minear, and the entire cast. Personally, I think the writing is what made Firefly work, and without Wheadon or Minear, I don't know if it will rise to the same level. Moreover, I felt Serenity was a good conclusion to the original mythology (River, Alliance, etc.). If…

Lets be real - Firefly was very good. But the reason it holds "magic" status as far as series goes is mostly because of its rarity, and the final movie where a major likable character was killed off, with everyone wishing for a sequel. Its same with anything really - car enthusiasts obsess over limited runs of older cars because they are rare, not because they are good, and people were lining up at McDonalds when the…

> Lets be real - Firefly was very good. But the reason it holds "magic" status as far as series goes is mostly because of its rarity, and the final movie where a major likable character was killed off, with everyone wishing for a sequel.

Strongly disagree. The Firefly series was always exceptional. I watched it on DVD around the time it came out (maybe just after it was cancelled) and waited for the movie. The movie was actually a net negative, in my opinion, for killing off Wash (Tudyk), who was essential to the chemistry they had going.

I actually think the movie killing him off (and to a lesser extent, killing Book) hurt the momentum for further movies or other follow-ups.

> If they would have done Season 2,3, and so on, it wouldn't be held in such a high regard as it is now.

It's always possible that it could have gone off the rails. But the original Star Trek only ran for three seasons and spawned countless other shows and movies. I think if it had gone for two more seasons with the same cast, crew it, and general quality level it could potentially have been another Star Trek.

Re: Animated 'Firefly' Reboot in Development from Nathan Fillion, 20th TV

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Post by Apocryphon »

BLKNSLVR wrote: post #31
idiotsecant wrote: post #20

I am honestly baffled by how much people love firefly. I don't get it. It's a slightly campy western-style scifi. It's not bad but it's not 'still talking about it for the next few decades' material IMO. Theres a zillion littl scifi channel series with essentially the same quality as far as I can figure.

It's because it was killed before it's time, and there was a known plan for the overall story arc (which was at least semi-satisfied by Serenity). It had developed a fan base that were hungry for more, and then it was cancelled, leaving a great thirst. Had it lasted three seasons (or even only two), and still been 'cancelled before it's time' it would have faded from memory more quickly because the itch would have be…

Before SyFy self-imploded a decade ago it had multiple “ragtag rogues adventure across a sci-fi setting with frontier elements” - Dark Matter, Killjoys, Defiance. Feels like the subgenre Firefly occupied is well-settled by now.

Re: Animated 'Firefly' Reboot in Development from Nathan Fillion, 20th TV

#48

Post by Dusseldorf »

D13Fd wrote: post #46
ActorNightly wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lets be real - Firefly was very good. But the reason it holds "magic" status as far as series goes is mostly because of its rarity, and the final movie where a major likable character was killed off, with everyone wishing for a sequel. Its same with anything really - car enthusiasts obsess over limited runs of older cars because they are rare, not because they are good, and people were lining up at McDonalds when the…

> Lets be real - Firefly was very good. But the reason it holds "magic" status as far as series goes is mostly because of its rarity, and the final movie where a major likable character was killed off, with everyone wishing for a sequel. Strongly disagree. The Firefly series was always exceptional. I watched it on DVD around the time it came out (maybe just after it was cancelled) and waited for the movie. The movie…

I never got the impression there was much momentum for any more sequels anyway, Serenity felt like the bone they were willing to throw. This was a time before show revivals (rather than remakes/reboots e.g. BSG) were common, it was very surprising when they did it for Family Guy.

Re: Animated 'Firefly' Reboot in Development from Nathan Fillion, 20th TV

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Post by D13Fd »

idiotsecant wrote: post #20

I am honestly baffled by how much people love firefly. I don't get it. It's a slightly campy western-style scifi. It's not bad but it's not 'still talking about it for the next few decades' material IMO. Theres a zillion littl scifi channel series with essentially the same quality as far as I can figure.

Do you have some examples? Because honestly I put Firefly very high on my list of shows I like.

The setting is great, the writing is top-notch, and the acting is wonderful. The characters have great chemistry. It's funny.

The general universe is well done too. It lacks endless implausible human-shaped aliens and is light on space magic, which is nice. Overall it feels lived-in and there is some interesting history.

Honestly it's hard to think of another space-western style series that I'd rate so highly. I guess parts of the Mandalorian fit the bill, but I wouldn't rank it up there with Firefly.

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