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Daily Driving GrapheneOS

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Re: Daily Driving GrapheneOS

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Post by learingsci »

microtonal wrote: post #42
Valodim wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mobile apps are how most people do banking these days, and it shows. In my experience banking apps are a lot more maintained and modern than classic online banking interfaces. So you're not just sacrificing "on the go" banking, you are likely sacrificing use of the best interface your bank offers.

Also, most smartphones (especially GrapheneOS, iOS, Pixel, etc) are far more secure than desktops/laptops. So also from a security perspective it's better to do banking on a phone.

And it’s very hard to actually steal a cellphone since it’s always with you, whereas houses get broken into all the time.

Re: Daily Driving GrapheneOS

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Post by chrizel »

unethical_ban wrote: post #18
Rnonymous wrote: post #15

I wish i could switch but bank apps and contactless payments keep me on stock pixel.

Is this a European thing? Why not use a credit card?

In Europe contactless payment is nearly everywhere - nearly every store supports it. Even in Germany (which is historically very pro-cash), since Covid more and more people pay with card and many of whom pay contactless.

In the EU we have some rules that even contactless payments with card sometimes, but not always, need to have some kind of additional authentication in the form of entering your PIN. Contactless payment methods via phone or watch don't have this need because they already have their own authentication methods. That's why so many people pay with their phone or watch. Its just more convenient and always contactless. (no PIN needed)

How is it in the US? Are things like Apple Pay still limited to certain stores?

Re: Daily Driving GrapheneOS

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Post by AJRF »

traxler wrote: post #31

For all the "My Banking Apps don't work", I'd raise one question: Do you really need access to banking apps on the go? I get that it can be handy and maybe you legit do, but I'd wager most people don't really do. If you can pay by phone you can pay by card and the card has less potentially to weirdly break. And if your bank demands a phone app to be used, you can always have a cheap stock android lying around at home…

Some info in case someone is on the fence about this, and are living in the UK. I use Monzo, and that works perfectly on GrapheneOS.

If they ever stopped working, I would just CASS to another bank. A bank that has a posture that something like GrapheneOS is too insecure to use their app on is a bit of a red flag.

Re: Daily Driving GrapheneOS

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Post by barcodehorse »

I run a degoogled Samsung, keep all my banking apps in a work profile. Ive been seeing a lot of people have issues with Graphene and banking apps, but wouldn't the work profile function on there too? Could you install the Google Play Services on the work profile and run it separately to your main phone?

Re: Daily Driving GrapheneOS

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Post by wink »

traxler wrote: post #31

For all the "My Banking Apps don't work", I'd raise one question: Do you really need access to banking apps on the go? I get that it can be handy and maybe you legit do, but I'd wager most people don't really do. If you can pay by phone you can pay by card and the card has less potentially to weirdly break. And if your bank demands a phone app to be used, you can always have a cheap stock android lying around at home…

Same here - all the German banks I know of the phone app is mostly for 2FA, but you can also use it for banking, if you like.

In my case it's also the 2FA for credit card usage (as I have the visa/mc via my bank), not only bank transfers.

Re: Daily Driving GrapheneOS

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Post by kennywinker »

omnimus wrote: post #36
vbezhenar wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know very little about lineageos. Their website contains very few docs, so I don't really understand what's this project is about. They don't mention Pixel 10, so I guess it's not supported. GrapheneOS website in comparison contains a lot of things to read, so after a hour of thorough reading I had good impression what GrapheneOS is.

Are the websites really that different? (i use iphone) I checked both homepages and impression I got is that Lineage is android that focuses on long term support (the name points that out) and Graphene is not android (ok?) and it's focused on security. Your Pixel 10 is not in Lineage devices so i would also assume it's not supported. (maybe it's too new?)

Yes, as I understand it lineageos is focused on supporting phones AFTER the mamufacturer stops supporting them - a pixel 10 is still supported afaik.

Re: Daily Driving GrapheneOS

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Post by npodbielski »

traxler wrote: post #31

For all the "My Banking Apps don't work", I'd raise one question: Do you really need access to banking apps on the go? I get that it can be handy and maybe you legit do, but I'd wager most people don't really do. If you can pay by phone you can pay by card and the card has less potentially to weirdly break. And if your bank demands a phone app to be used, you can always have a cheap stock android lying around at home…

Some people will suffer some inconvenience for something that they think is worth it and some people will do everything to no do anything because it is too much trouble. Sometimes they are the same people but in regards to different areas. For example I would never grow my own carrots. What for? I can buy them. And my wife would never built self hosted media server. Why spend 5k$ on PC when you can just buy Netflix?

And there is 3 kind of people that do one of the above and go around in real life and online and tries to convince everyone that THE THING that they are doing is THE ONLY, TRUE SOLUTION. Like vegans or cyclists.

In reality none of this is true. If Graphene OS would tomorrow became, magically the only mobile OS in existence they would became next evil tech company in few years. Because power corrupts.

Re: Daily Driving GrapheneOS

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Post by HunOL »

traxler wrote: post #31

For all the "My Banking Apps don't work", I'd raise one question: Do you really need access to banking apps on the go? I get that it can be handy and maybe you legit do, but I'd wager most people don't really do. If you can pay by phone you can pay by card and the card has less potentially to weirdly break. And if your bank demands a phone app to be used, you can always have a cheap stock android lying around at home…

> Do you really need access to banking apps on the go?

Yes, I do.

Re: Daily Driving GrapheneOS

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Post by traxler »

Valodim wrote: post #37
traxler wrote: post #31

For all the "My Banking Apps don't work", I'd raise one question: Do you really need access to banking apps on the go? I get that it can be handy and maybe you legit do, but I'd wager most people don't really do. If you can pay by phone you can pay by card and the card has less potentially to weirdly break. And if your bank demands a phone app to be used, you can always have a cheap stock android lying around at home…

Mobile apps are how most people do banking these days, and it shows. In my experience banking apps are a lot more maintained and modern than classic online banking interfaces. So you're not just sacrificing "on the go" banking, you are likely sacrificing use of the best interface your bank offers.

Sadly true, while not being a phone person, I have started using my home banking phone for tasks I used to do on my desktop. Still never leaves my office.

Re: Daily Driving GrapheneOS

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Post by iugtmkbdfil834 »

learingsci wrote: post #51
microtonal wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also, most smartphones (especially GrapheneOS, iOS, Pixel, etc) are far more secure than desktops/laptops. So also from a security perspective it's better to do banking on a phone.

And it’s very hard to actually steal a cellphone since it’s always with you, whereas houses get broken into all the time.

This has to be some fascinating regional difference, because my personal experiences suggest the opposite. Would you be willing to elaborate ( in general terms/locations if too sensitive )?
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