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Daily Driving GrapheneOS

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Re: Daily Driving GrapheneOS

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Post by vbezhenar »

riedel wrote: post #9
vbezhenar wrote: post #8

TBH What I wanted from the world is AOSP distribution. Built similarly to GrapheneOS in terms of distribution, ease of install. But I just don't feel I need all these privacy enhancements and stuff, I'm perfectly fine with ordinary system compiled from Google sources with proper update schedule. Also I don't want to see anything installed out of the box, except maybe single app to install AOSP apps, F-Droid, Play Sto…

So what is wrong with lineage in this case?

I know very little about lineageos. Their website contains very few docs, so I don't really understand what's this project is about. They don't mention Pixel 10, so I guess it's not supported.

GrapheneOS website in comparison contains a lot of things to read, so after a hour of thorough reading I had good impression what GrapheneOS is.

Re: Daily Driving GrapheneOS

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Post by foxes »

skeptic_ai wrote: post #5

I’ve tried but: couldn’t get my card to work on wallet. Can’t verify. Uber couldn’t verify payment so I couldn’t take a ride when needed.

It's googles fault that cards can't work in graphene.

Google needs to whitelist graphene basically to work in the wallet app.

On that note, given that graphene is focused around security and privacy, perhaps not givng your payment data to google is probably a good thing

Re: Daily Driving GrapheneOS

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Post by cocoto »

Personally I would just love Apple to be forced by governments to open up their hardware by releasing complete documentation of their hardware and allowing to install another os or dual boot. iPhones hardware is really good and would love booting Linux on theses. And then force every services company to provide an API to their services so we have an alternative to their app. I guess Motorola partnering with GrapheneOS will not change anything in this space because contactless payments and some apps will not work and fundamentally because the sales will be way below mainstream brands like Apple/Samsung. Governments need to step up here.

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Post by riedel »

skeptic_ai wrote: post #5

I’ve tried but: couldn’t get my card to work on wallet. Can’t verify. Uber couldn’t verify payment so I couldn’t take a ride when needed.

Wallet was one of the reasons I abandoned my well working lineageOS phone on a redmi note 10 as it was a cat and mouse game over month. I feel as long as a vendor does not support an os and Google is so hostile against modifications, it is not a good feeling that they can pull the rug at any time. I was multiple times in the situation when I wanted to pay with the phone and was in the end rejected. I think we need to take NFC wallets and esims away from phone/os vendors again. A seperate NFC enabled vendor independent trusted platform would be IMHO the way to go. Especially with ID wallets and universal bank wallets on the way in Europe. This that they cannot use security as a killer argument to keep us in their walled gardens. I know the solution is cards or a second phone, but affordance counts.

Re: Daily Driving GrapheneOS

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Post by ZlibraryKO »

I’ve been using GrapheneOS for a couple of years now, and it’s been perfect for me. Contactless payments used to work fine, but then my bank switched to Google Wallet. Since then, I’ve just kept a physical card tucked behind my phone case so I can use it when needed.

Re: Daily Driving GrapheneOS

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Post by razingeden »

vbezhenar wrote: post #6
sankalpmukim wrote: post #4

good writeup. I've been meaning to set this up for myself too. I keep uninstalling apps from my phone every other day because if I use something very little, I am afraid the app is collecting data from my usage in some way or the other. I have a fairly new ish Pixel phone, do you think I'll be able to go back if I don't like it?

Yes, it's super simple to install GrapheneOS and to revert to the factory OS on Google Pixels. It is done from Chrome browser with phone connected via USB cable, no need to install anything. Of course when you'll switch, you'll lose all data on your phone, basically like factory reset (but esims survive I think).

eSIMs survive the grapheneOS install…

Because when I had set it up, grapheneOS itself couldn’t install or set one up unless it was previously installed under the old OS.

So I had to set up my carrier and then install grapheneOS.

It can install eSIMs on its own now so this doesn’t matter other than confirming the eSIM carries over.

I’ve never reverted to stock android and I’m never looking back so idk if the eSIM survives the round trip.

Re: Daily Driving GrapheneOS

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Post by tl2do »

I admire the de-Googled approach of GrapheneOS. As a lawyer, privacy concerns resonate with me too. I love the rebellious attitude of tech that presents an alternative choice in an overly duopolistic market.

That said, I wouldn't last 8.4 months like the author. Even though he admits to some Google app usage, I'm in too deep — I'd never be able to get out. But if I get the chance, I'd like to try it on a secondary phone. Those solid black icons are one reason. They look cool.

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