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Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11

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Re: Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11

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Post by SilasX »

spikej wrote: post #36
epolanski wrote: post #29

I liked the path windows was going in late 2010s. WSL, power toys, many great utils, great performance. But it has since then stalled and got increasingly worse. Especially with this AI shoving everywhere, not even mentioning getting ads at some point in notifications and start menu. I'm not particularly in love with MacOS either (but have no realistic alternative on my MacBooks). I'm more and more inclined of switch…

Even without the AI, it's replacing native apps with web based ones. Case in point: Notepad. It's slower than WordPad on Win 10... and crashes!

This. It was infuriating to find Notepad got updated to a bloated app with rich text and Copilot. It's so different, it just should have been another program. The whole reason I use Notepad is because it's a simple, dumb, fast, predictable program. If I wanted the rich text, I would use any of the numerous other options!

And for the kicker, the update made it forget my font settings.

Re: Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11

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Post by wackget »

thunky wrote: post #41
epolanski wrote: post #29

I liked the path windows was going in late 2010s. WSL, power toys, many great utils, great performance. But it has since then stalled and got increasingly worse. Especially with this AI shoving everywhere, not even mentioning getting ads at some point in notifications and start menu. I'm not particularly in love with MacOS either (but have no realistic alternative on my MacBooks). I'm more and more inclined of switch…

> I'm more and more inclined of switching my desktop (my main working machine) to Omarchy Never heard of it and the website and GitHub repo sure aren't doing a great job of describing it's benefits. "Beautiful, Modern & Opinionated" are vague and really aren't adjectives I'd be looking for in an OS.

When anything is described as "opinionated" I just read it as "wilfully inflexible".

Re: Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11

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Post by smt88 »

doodlesdev wrote: post #43

Regarding the video benchmark on the page: what would be fair is testing against the hardware that was available when the operating system was released. Windows 11 is absolutely not meant to run against hard drives, and current notebook and desktop offerings for home and enterprise users reflect that: you can get a 256gb SSD for a pretty decent price nowadays, to the point there's absolutely no reason to put in an HD…

MacOS is a buggy mess, and it's also pretty slow lately. If you need full Office for work, your best bet is probably still Windows.

Re: Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11

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Post by deng »

nemomarx wrote: post #49
thunky wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'm more and more inclined of switching my desktop (my main working machine) to Omarchy Never heard of it and the website and GitHub repo sure aren't doing a great job of describing it's benefits. "Beautiful, Modern & Opinionated" are vague and really aren't adjectives I'd be looking for in an OS.

There's always been Arch linux based distros that come with more things set up and better (or just more specific) defaults. To my understanding Omarchy is just one of those, like Manjaro or etc in the past?

Yeah, it's just one of those, but worse. It's basically run by a bunch of badly written bash scripts:

https://xn--gckvb8fzb.com/a-word-on-omarchy/

Re: Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11

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Post by kryogen1c »

The fact that, on expensive hardware, I can hit windows+r and start typing before the run box renders/loads is staggering, it beggars belief.

Im generally a microsoft shill, but theyre really on the down hill slope. windows 11 is truly a masterpiece of changes no one asked for or wants, Teams is the least reliable piece of business software I've ever seen. New outlook does not have feature parity with old outlook and has the same bargain bin apple ux stylings as w11.

Maybe ive finally crested the age gap and im officially a dinosaur, but God damn every microsoft product is worse than it used to be.

Re: Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11

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Post by k2enemy »

michelb wrote: post #34

Curious how MacOSX stacks up over the past 25 years. Tahoe feels like a massive regression on all fronts, from GUI to I/O.

MacOS seems to be going the way of Windows, with unnecessary and distracting notifications for things users don't care about. Then on top of that, the whole liquid glass redesign that hurts usability and information density.

Definitely moving in the direction of "what is good for a particular PM" and not "what is good for the user." I would have switched to linux years ago if it were not for the great hardware and I like having access to iMessages from the desktop.

Re: Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11

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Post by doodlesdev »

baddie_twoshoes wrote: post #40

Don't software products tend to get slower, not faster, with each release? I think Windows 7 vs Vista was the only time I remember things getting better. IOS 26 is also terrible (on battery especially). New OS releases always have a ton of new services in them that bog them down.

They do, but that's really not necessary. In the linked video you can see Windows 8.1 is pretty well optimized compared to the other Windows versions.

A lot of this slowdown is just developers getting complacent and getting used to the new hardware capabilities. Windows has a lot of low hanging optimization fruit laying around. It's just Microsoft doesn't really care about that: it doesn't fit the business model at all.

Re: Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11

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Post by Loughla »

badc0ffee wrote: post #33
richard_chase wrote: post #14

I switched to Linux after Windows started showing me propaganda on the screen where you enter your password. To me, that's diabolical and forced me to make the switch. Sorry, I don't wish to "Learn more about Black-Owned Businesses" just to access my computer.

We updated my MIL's computer to Windows 11 and now it's giving her ads about Xbox something or other on the login screen. She is in her 80s and has no idea what an Xbox even is.

Ads on the login screen, ads on my fucking start menu. No intuitive way to access all programs. . . Sorry. Apps from the start menu. Suggested apps instead of that. Hold screens to set a backup using one drive and to link my phone and set telemetry and whatever other bullshit once a week.

It's not great. Linux mint is what I install for older relatives now. It's close enough to windows feeling that they never even question it.

Re: Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11

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Post by kombine »

thunky wrote: post #41
epolanski wrote: post #29

I liked the path windows was going in late 2010s. WSL, power toys, many great utils, great performance. But it has since then stalled and got increasingly worse. Especially with this AI shoving everywhere, not even mentioning getting ads at some point in notifications and start menu. I'm not particularly in love with MacOS either (but have no realistic alternative on my MacBooks). I'm more and more inclined of switch…

> I'm more and more inclined of switching my desktop (my main working machine) to Omarchy Never heard of it and the website and GitHub repo sure aren't doing a great job of describing it's benefits. "Beautiful, Modern & Opinionated" are vague and really aren't adjectives I'd be looking for in an OS.

I would instead recommend going for Fedora KDE Edition which will give you state of the art Linux desktop experience.
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