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I don't really like that "enshittified" is being used here. You could argue that Plex, MinIO or Mattermost is being enshittified, but definitely not self hosting as a whole. Enshittification also usually implies that switching to an alternative is difficult (usually because creating a competing service is near impossible because you'd have to get users on it). That flaw doesn't really apply to self hosting like it do…
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> I suspect you don’t ...today. If you're self-hosting, do you need 640K of ram?
And you can upgrade in future to match your actual needs instead of wasting money trying to front load costs for no benefit. You can buy a “lightly used” Dell Optiplex with 8gb RAM for like $40 which will cover all your self hosting needs today .
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And you can upgrade in future to match your actual needs instead of wasting money trying to front load costs for no benefit. You can buy a “lightly used” Dell Optiplex with 8gb RAM for like $40 which will cover all your self hosting needs today .
What's its power consumption?
If you’re self-hosting, do you need 128GB of ram? I suspect you don’t. I suspect a couple of beelinks could run your whole business (minus the GPU needs).
But the biggest thing I am worried about is the hardware prices too.
So I want to ask but is there any hardware (usually ram) which isn't getting its price increase insanely much? Perhaps refurbished or auctioned servers?
What is the best way to now get hardware which is bang for its buck? Should we even buy hardware right now or wait 3-4 years for factory production to rise and AI bubble to crash, I definitely think that ram prices will fall off very steeply (its almost a cycle in the ram business)
I am not sure but buying up small levels of compute feels like a decent idea if you are doing anything computationally expensive and of course if you have something like plex, then I suppose you have to expand on the storage part and not so much on the ram part (perhaps some encoding/decoding which could be ram intensive but I don't know)
I had gotten into the rumour that asus is ramping up chip production or smth to save hardware but it turned out to be fake so not sure how to respond but please some hardware company should definitely see this opportunity smh.
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you choose if and when you update your back-end software That's what we say it's about. But it's really about open source devs being our slaves forever. Get to work, Mattermost! (whip crack)
Did you read the Github issue? These guys are paying customers.
I saw "we're happy to pay for it" and thought they were paying for it. They're not, yet.
If you’re self-hosting, do you need 128GB of ram? I suspect you don’t. I suspect a couple of beelinks could run your whole business (minus the GPU needs).
Honestly, the problem that they're preparing for, isn't any of our fault. This is inflicted upon the world by some very twisted business models, incentives and priorities. It's hard to predict how it will all end up. Perhaps the market will be flooded with tons of RAM that will have to be transplanted onto proper DIMM modules. Or perhaps we might be scavenging the e-waste junkyard for every last RAM IC we can find - in which case, his choice would be correct.
If you ask these people you need to buy expensive hardware and build your own datacenter at home.
I have been hosting all my services on a single Intel Nuc from 10 years ago and a RPI5 as backup for critical services like DNS.
That's it.
You'll truly be amazed at how much stuff you can actually run on very little hardware if you only have between 2 and 5 users like in a family.
Also, MinIO was always a enterprise option. It was never meant for home use. Just use SeaweedFS, Garage or so if you really want S3.
Sidenote: You do not need S3 in your house. Just use the filesystem.
Maybe I'm missing something here: the great thing about self-hosting is that you choose if and when you update your back-end software. What's stopping self-hosting admins from simply staying on a known good version and forking that if they so desire?