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Re: Claude Code creator says Claude wrote all his code for the last month

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Post by pragmatic »

pragmatic wrote: post #50

The guy who write the typescript/bun cli and probably maintains that? It would be helpful if people also included what kind of code they are writing (language, domain, module, purpose, etc) The hallucinations are still there, sometimes worse than others but manageable. This is mostly when I have to do some database management style work. This is off the beaten path and hallucinations are crazy.

I had to add some “shim” code to an older app to bridge authentication to a new rest endpoint I added to an aging monolith.

It actually didn’t too bad after some back and forth and this too was off the beaten path (hard to find a stack overflow/blog post/etc putting it all together)

Totally worth the $20/mo!!

Re: Claude Code creator says Claude wrote all his code for the last month

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Post by ragequittah »

578_Observer wrote: post #46
mmasu wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use the house analogy a lot these days. A colleague vibe-coded an app and it does what it is supposed to, but the code really is an unmaintainable hodgepodge of files. I compare this to a house that looks functional on the surface, but has the toilet in the middle of the living room, an unsafe electrical system, water leaks, etc. I am afraid only the facade of the house will need to be beautiful, only to realize th…

I've been a loan officer for 20 years. To extend your analogy: AI is effectively mass-producing 'Subprime Housing'. It has amazing curb appeal (glittering paint), but as a banker, I'd rate this as a 'Toxic Asset' with zero collateral value. The scary part is that the 'interest rate' on this technical debt is variable. Eventually, it becomes cheaper to declare bankruptcy (rewrite from scratch) than to pay off the reno…

My experience with it is the code just wouldn't have existed in the first place otherwise. Nobody was going to pay thousands of dollars for it and it just needs to work and be accurate. It's not the backend code you give root access to on the company server, it's automating the boring aspects of the job with a basic frontend.

I've been able to save people money and time. If someone comes in later and has a more elegant solution for the same $60 effort I spent great! Otherwise I'll continue saving people money and time with my non-perfect code.

Re: Claude Code creator says Claude wrote all his code for the last month

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Post by zenethian »

akmarinov wrote: post #37

I’m one of those people. Used Claude Code until September then Codex exclusively. All my code has been AI generated, nothing by hand. I review the code and if I don’t like something- I let it know how it should be changed. Used to be a lot of back and forth in August, but these days GPT 5.2 Codex one shots everything so far. It worked for 40 hours for me one time to get a big thing in place and I’m happy with the cod…

Okay but has this process actually improved anything, or just substituted one process for another? Do you have fewer defects, quicker ticket turnaround, or some other metric you’re judging success?

Re: Claude Code creator says Claude wrote all his code for the last month

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Post by akmarinov »

zenethian wrote: post #53
akmarinov wrote: post #37

I’m one of those people. Used Claude Code until September then Codex exclusively. All my code has been AI generated, nothing by hand. I review the code and if I don’t like something- I let it know how it should be changed. Used to be a lot of back and forth in August, but these days GPT 5.2 Codex one shots everything so far. It worked for 40 hours for me one time to get a big thing in place and I’m happy with the cod…

Okay but has this process actually improved anything, or just substituted one process for another? Do you have fewer defects, quicker ticket turnaround, or some other metric you’re judging success?

Oh yeah, I’ve been a lot more productive, closing tickets faster.

These tools are somewhat slow, so you need to work on several things at once, so multitasking is vital.

When i get defects from the QA team, I spawn several agents with several worktrees that do each of the tickets- then i review the code, test it out and leave my notes.

Closing the loop is also vital, if agents can see their work, logs, test results it helps them to be more autonomous

Re: Claude Code creator says Claude wrote all his code for the last month

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Post by 578_Observer »

ragequittah wrote: post #52
578_Observer wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been a loan officer for 20 years. To extend your analogy: AI is effectively mass-producing 'Subprime Housing'. It has amazing curb appeal (glittering paint), but as a banker, I'd rate this as a 'Toxic Asset' with zero collateral value. The scary part is that the 'interest rate' on this technical debt is variable. Eventually, it becomes cheaper to declare bankruptcy (rewrite from scratch) than to pay off the reno…

My experience with it is the code just wouldn't have existed in the first place otherwise. Nobody was going to pay thousands of dollars for it and it just needs to work and be accurate. It's not the backend code you give root access to on the company server, it's automating the boring aspects of the job with a basic frontend. I've been able to save people money and time. If someone comes in later and has a more elega…

That's a fair point.

In banking terms, you are treating AI code as "OPEX" (Operating Expense) rather than "CAPEX" (Capital Expenditure). As long as we treat these $60 quick-fixes as "depreciating assets" (use it and throw it away), it’s great ROI.

My warning was specifically about the danger of mistaking these quick-fixes for "Long-term Capital Assets." As long as you know it's a disposable tool, not a foundation, we are on the same page.

Re: Claude Code creator says Claude wrote all his code for the last month

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Post by dave1999x »

pseudony wrote: post #34

I wonder how. Everything I let claude code majorly write, whether Go, F#, C or Python, I end up eventually at a point where I systematically rip it apart and start writing it over. In my study days, we talked of “spikes”. Software or components which functionally addressed some need, but often was badly written and architected. That’s what I think most resembles claude code output. And I ask the llm to write todo-lis…

Have you tried with Opus 4.5. It's a step change IMO.

Re: Claude Code creator says Claude wrote all his code for the last month

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Post by flashgordon »

pseudony wrote: post #34

I wonder how. Everything I let claude code majorly write, whether Go, F#, C or Python, I end up eventually at a point where I systematically rip it apart and start writing it over. In my study days, we talked of “spikes”. Software or components which functionally addressed some need, but often was badly written and architected. That’s what I think most resembles claude code output. And I ask the llm to write todo-lis…

There are different degrees of "ai wrote all my code". A very crappy way of doing it is to keep on one shotting it expecting it to "fall on the right solution" - very much infinite monkeys, infinite typewriters scenario.

The other way is to spend a fair bit of time building out a design and ask it to implement it while verifying what it is producing then and there instead of reviewing reams of slop later on. AI still produced 100% - just that it is not as glamorous or as marketing friendly of a sound bite. After all which product manager wants to understand refactoring or TDD or SOLID or design principles etc?

Re: Claude Code creator says Claude wrote all his code for the last month

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Post by akmarinov »

112233 wrote: post #45
akmarinov wrote: post #37

I’m one of those people. Used Claude Code until September then Codex exclusively. All my code has been AI generated, nothing by hand. I review the code and if I don’t like something- I let it know how it should be changed. Used to be a lot of back and forth in August, but these days GPT 5.2 Codex one shots everything so far. It worked for 40 hours for me one time to get a big thing in place and I’m happy with the cod…

Glad to hear. For me, the process does not converge — once code gets big enough (it happens fast, claude hates using existing code and writes duplicate logic every oportunity it gets) it starts dealing more damage every turn. At some point, no forward progress happens, because claude keeps dismantling and breaking existing working code.

Yeah Claude was like that for me too. Give GPT 5.2 Codex a shot.

Re: Claude Code creator says Claude wrote all his code for the last month

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Post by akmarinov »

skibidithink wrote: post #44
akmarinov wrote: post #37

I’m one of those people. Used Claude Code until September then Codex exclusively. All my code has been AI generated, nothing by hand. I review the code and if I don’t like something- I let it know how it should be changed. Used to be a lot of back and forth in August, but these days GPT 5.2 Codex one shots everything so far. It worked for 40 hours for me one time to get a big thing in place and I’m happy with the cod…

How long did it take for you to get used to this workflow?

I started in July-August and it’s a learning curve, you start with “i’ve got all the power” and gradually learn the limits of the AI models, so you start closing the loop and getting them what they need to make sure that they’ll output what you consider acceptable.

With each new drop, they become more and more powerful, so it’s easier and easier to jump in.

Go look at Peter Steinberger’s stuff at https://steipete.me/posts/just-talk-to-it it’s a great way to get going.

Follow him and https://jeffreyemanuel.com/ on X to keep up to date on the latest and most advanced techniques to work with AI. Learned a lot from them.

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