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Re: Claude Code creator says Claude wrote all his code for the last month

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Post by 578_Observer »

clrflfclrf wrote: post #26
578_Observer wrote: post #18

"If the AI builds the house, the human must become the Architect who understands why the house exists." In Japanese traditional carpentry (Miya-daiku), the master doesn't just cut wood. He reads the "heart of the tree" and decides the orientation based on the environment. The author just proved that "cutting wood" (coding) is now automated. This is not the end of engineers, but the beginning of the "Age of Architects…

Taste, Aesthetics, Gestalt Synergy now matter more.

Precisely.

AI optimizes for "Accuracy" (minimizing error), but it cannot optimize for "Taste" because Taste is not a variable in its loss function.

As code becomes abundant and cheap, "Aesthetics" and "Gestalt" will become the only scarcity left. The Architect's job is not to build, but to choose what is beautiful.

Re: Claude Code creator says Claude wrote all his code for the last month

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Post by raphman »

Claude Code user¹ says Claude Code wrote continuously incorrect code for the last hour.

I asked it to write Python code to retrieve a list of Kanbord boards using the official API. I gave it a link to the API docs. First, it wrote a wrong JSONRPC call. Then it invented a Python API call that does not exist. In a new try, I I mentioned that there is an official Python package that it could use (which is prominently described in the API docs). Claude proceeded to search the web and then used the wrong API call. Only after prompting it again, it used the correct API call - but still used an inelegant approach.

I still find some value in using Claude Code but I'm much happier writing code myself and rather teach kids and colleagues how to do stuff correctly than a machine.

¹) me

Re: Claude Code creator says Claude wrote all his code for the last month

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Post by mmasu »

578_Observer wrote: post #31
clrflfclrf wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Taste, Aesthetics, Gestalt Synergy now matter more.

Precisely. AI optimizes for "Accuracy" (minimizing error), but it cannot optimize for "Taste" because Taste is not a variable in its loss function. As code becomes abundant and cheap, "Aesthetics" and "Gestalt" will become the only scarcity left. The Architect's job is not to build, but to choose what is beautiful.

I use the house analogy a lot these days. A colleague vibe-coded an app and it does what it is supposed to, but the code really is an unmaintainable hodgepodge of files. I compare this to a house that looks functional on the surface, but has the toilet in the middle of the living room, an unsafe electrical system, water leaks, etc. I am afraid only the facade of the house will need to be beautiful, only to realize that they traded off glittery paint for shaky foundations.

Re: Claude Code creator says Claude wrote all his code for the last month

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Post by pseudony »

I wonder how. Everything I let claude code majorly write, whether Go, F#, C or Python, I end up eventually at a point where I systematically rip it apart and start writing it over.

In my study days, we talked of “spikes”. Software or components which functionally addressed some need, but often was badly written and architected.

That’s what I think most resembles claude code output.

And I ask the llm to write todo-lists, break tasks into phases, maintain both larger docs on individual features and a highly condensed overview doc. I also have written claude code like tools myself, run local LLMs and so on. That is to say, I may still be “doing it wrong”, but I’m not entirely clueless .

The only place where claude code has nearly done the whole thing and largely left me with workable code was some react front-end work I did (and no, it wasn’t great either, just fair enough).

Re: Claude Code creator says Claude wrote all his code for the last month

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Post by aurareturn »

pseudony wrote: post #34

I wonder how. Everything I let claude code majorly write, whether Go, F#, C or Python, I end up eventually at a point where I systematically rip it apart and start writing it over. In my study days, we talked of “spikes”. Software or components which functionally addressed some need, but often was badly written and architected. That’s what I think most resembles claude code output. And I ask the llm to write todo-lis…

Because companies/users don’t pay for “great code”. They pay for results.

Does it work? How fast can we get it? How much does it cost to use it?

Re: Claude Code creator says Claude wrote all his code for the last month

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Post by janice1999 »

aurareturn wrote: post #35
pseudony wrote: post #34

I wonder how. Everything I let claude code majorly write, whether Go, F#, C or Python, I end up eventually at a point where I systematically rip it apart and start writing it over. In my study days, we talked of “spikes”. Software or components which functionally addressed some need, but often was badly written and architected. That’s what I think most resembles claude code output. And I ask the llm to write todo-lis…

Because companies/users don’t pay for “great code”. They pay for results. Does it work? How fast can we get it? How much does it cost to use it?

> Because companies/users don’t pay for “great code”

Unless you work in an industry with standards, like medical or automotive. Setting ISO compliance aside, you could also work for a company which values long term maintainability, uptime etc. I'm glad I do. Not everyone is stuck writing disposable web apps.

Re: Claude Code creator says Claude wrote all his code for the last month

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Post by akmarinov »

I’m one of those people.

Used Claude Code until September then Codex exclusively.

All my code has been AI generated, nothing by hand.

I review the code and if I don’t like something- I let it know how it should be changed.

Used to be a lot of back and forth in August, but these days GPT 5.2 Codex one shots everything so far. It worked for 40 hours for me one time to get a big thing in place and I’m happy with the code.

For bigger things start with a plan and go back and forth on different pieces, have it write it to an md file as you talk it through, feed it anything you can - user stories, test cases, design, whiteboards, backs of napkins and in the end it just writes the code for you.

Works great, can’t fathom going back to writing everything by hand.

Re: Claude Code creator says Claude wrote all his code for the last month

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Post by akmarinov »

rs_rs_rs_rs_rs wrote: post #6

I'm sure it's unrelated(right guys? right?) but they had to revert a big update to CC this month. https://x.com/trq212/status/2001848726395269619

They didn’t have to, they decided that it’ll be more stable to revert them for the holidays, so that they won’t be in the office fixing issues on Christmas.

You can read more about it at https://steipete.me/posts/2025/signature-flicker

Re: Claude Code creator says Claude wrote all his code for the last month

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Post by verzali »

clrflfclrf wrote: post #29
onion2k wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No. LLMs can only reorder what they've seen in training data in novel ways. Humans can have original ideas that aren't in their training data. As a trivial example, John Carmack invented raycasting for Wolfenstein 3D. No matter how much prompting you could have given an LLM it could never have done that because there was no prior art for it to have been trained on. In pragmatic terms though, innovation like that does…

Humans can have original ideas because they forget 99% of their input. I am of the opinion there are no original ideas. Most of what most humans do is just remix and reshaping like a potter shapes the clay.

So in the end you believe everything is just a remix of two rocks banging together?

Re: Claude Code creator says Claude wrote all his code for the last month

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Post by castis »

aurareturn wrote: post #35
pseudony wrote: post #34

I wonder how. Everything I let claude code majorly write, whether Go, F#, C or Python, I end up eventually at a point where I systematically rip it apart and start writing it over. In my study days, we talked of “spikes”. Software or components which functionally addressed some need, but often was badly written and architected. That’s what I think most resembles claude code output. And I ask the llm to write todo-lis…

Because companies/users don’t pay for “great code”. They pay for results. Does it work? How fast can we get it? How much does it cost to use it?

Sounds like the best way to sell an OK product.
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