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Re: Spyware maker NSO Group confirms acquisition by US investors

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I always wondered how the software people who work in places like this live with themselves. Is it some sort of “enough money can make me forget and look myself in the mirror” situation?

The morals and values are very different in different cultures. For those hacking foreigners is not ethically questionable, because foreigners are below a dog in their hierarchy, local leaders agree on this and shield these companies from classified as crime.

Re: Spyware maker NSO Group confirms acquisition by US investors

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post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The first statement doesn’t sound like anything a professional investor would ever say

Are you sure? I feel like ESG has been rammed in to every company i've worked at for a couple of decades now.

ESG there is just for pandering, optics and virtue signaling, but they don't actually believe any of that.

Re: Spyware maker NSO Group confirms acquisition by US investors

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post #4

I always wondered how the software people who work in places like this live with themselves. Is it some sort of “enough money can make me forget and look myself in the mirror” situation?

The morals and values are very different in different cultures. For those hacking foreigners is not ethically questionable, because foreigners are below a dog in their hierarchy, local leaders agree on this and shield these companies from classified as crime.

As the article states:

> “This investment does not mean that the company is moving out of Israeli regulatory or operational control,” said Hershowitz. “The company’s headquarters and core operations remain in Israel. It continues to be fully supervised and regulated by the relevant Israeli authorities, including the Ministry of Defense and the Israeli regulatory framework.”

Re: Spyware maker NSO Group confirms acquisition by US investors

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post #40

"Tens of millions" for controlling stake in NSO is like an order of magnitude less than what I'd imagine in todays environment. Comes off as cheap. Have their capabilities been overplayed? Is selling done under pressure? Are they not actually sitting on big bank and procurement network of valuable 0days?

when your software is highly illegal, i doubt you can find many investors

Re: Spyware maker NSO Group confirms acquisition by US investors

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post #4

I always wondered how the software people who work in places like this live with themselves. Is it some sort of “enough money can make me forget and look myself in the mirror” situation?

You can say this about most of tech. Sure, we agree spying is bad. But, is it worse than ad tech at large? Is it worse than companies addicting people to their phones via psychological tricks at alarming rates? Or siphoning money from kids via freemium models? Or working on a chatbot that helps kids kill themselves? Or the gazillion payday loan apps? Or the gazillion prediction market/sports betting avenues? I'm sure…

yes it s worse, far worse

Re: Spyware maker NSO Group confirms acquisition by US investors

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> After sending the messages, Hershowitz declared his comments “off the record,” which requires both parties to agree to the terms in advance. TechCrunch is publishing the responses as there was no agreement made What a failure for a spokesperson.

fitting, considering his job is to spy without consent

Re: Spyware maker NSO Group confirms acquisition by US investors

#57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The morals and values are very different in different cultures. For those hacking foreigners is not ethically questionable, because foreigners are below a dog in their hierarchy, local leaders agree on this and shield these companies from classified as crime.

As the article states: > “This investment does not mean that the company is moving out of Israeli regulatory or operational control,” said Hershowitz. “The company’s headquarters and core operations remain in Israel. It continues to be fully supervised and regulated by the relevant Israeli authorities, including the Ministry of Defense and the Israeli regulatory framework.”

Word "regulation" makes it sound benign. It is not.

Re: Spyware maker NSO Group confirms acquisition by US investors

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s an Israeli company - they probably consider their work a matter of national security and get along just fine with that

Well I’m sure the equivalent exists in most nations

Not really.

Re: Spyware maker NSO Group confirms acquisition by US investors

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post #9
post #4

I always wondered how the software people who work in places like this live with themselves. Is it some sort of “enough money can make me forget and look myself in the mirror” situation?

They tell themselves stories about "if free market did not want it it would not exist" or better us than them

This has nothing to do with free markets. This is a state controlled entity. A warfare tool for the brutes.

Re: Spyware maker NSO Group confirms acquisition by US investors

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post #4

I always wondered how the software people who work in places like this live with themselves. Is it some sort of “enough money can make me forget and look myself in the mirror” situation?

You can say this about most of tech. Sure, we agree spying is bad. But, is it worse than ad tech at large? Is it worse than companies addicting people to their phones via psychological tricks at alarming rates? Or siphoning money from kids via freemium models? Or working on a chatbot that helps kids kill themselves? Or the gazillion payday loan apps? Or the gazillion prediction market/sports betting avenues? I'm sure…

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