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Re: LineageOS 23

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Post by wtfwhateven »

Brian_K_White wrote: post #27
konaraddi wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

are you able to do any banking your phone?

Most everything banking related works for me. 2 different credit unions, roboinvesting, paypal & paypal-alikes, credit card, car insurance, etc. What does not work? An LG app to control an air conditioner. Also I have to hide root from the roku app, which I use for the headphone because it works better than the headphone on the remote. Super important stuff, no wonder they lock that down so much. Ok I did skip one re…

>What does not work? An LG app to control an air conditioner.

I use GrapheneOS. Thankfully I've had few things not work. Google Pay being one of them, the other is the garage door (Liftmaster)[1].

I genuinely find it disgusting. Thankfully I rent the apartment (and attached garage) so I've never given them any money. At the end of the day there's literally zero justification for a garage door opening app to brick itself if it's run on a unapproved platform. The official[2] statement states:

"Our customers rely on us to make access simple without sacrificing quality and reliability. Unauthorized app integrations, stemming from only 0.2% of myQ users, previously accounted for more than half of the traffic to and from the myQ system, and at times constituted a substantial DDOS event that consumed high quantities of resources."

AKA "we are incapable of implementing a basic ratelimit. faulty third-party clients made our AWS bill go up a bit so we are going to go on an irrational crusade against third-party integrations of any kind and expend more resources doing this than would be spent by giving users a simple API to use"

[1]: https://xdaforums.com/t/root-detection-for-myq-apps.3858887/ [2]: https://chamberlaingroup.com/press/a-message-about-our-decis...

Re: LineageOS 23

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Post by kahnclusions »

drnick1 wrote: post #41
ayatollah wrote: post #35

Over recent user privacy (and security) crackdowns from Google, these OS upgrades seem to be becoming more appealing. Can anyone comment on what differs Lineage from something like GrapheneOS?

Graphene is probably better on the devices that support both (Pixels), but since hardware support is so (intentionally) limited, it kind of a moot point. Also the Graphene community is kind of obsessed with "security" and does not seem to place much emphasis on freedom/hackability.

Why the scare quotes? Graphene’s focus on security is legitimate and well founded. They are the only phone OS that is consistently safe from hacking by the likes of Cellebrite long after all other androids have fallen.

Re: LineageOS 23

#53

Post by exe34 »

konaraddi wrote: post #21
dbeley wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use LineageOS on all my devices (it's actually my main criteria when buying a phone) to mainly install apps from F-Droid without relying on the Google Play Store. It has the same familiar look and feel on all devices and by experience is way snappier than the original ROM.

are you able to do any banking your phone?

I use chrome and the web version.

Re: LineageOS 23

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Post by z3ratul163071 »

konaraddi wrote: post #21
dbeley wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use LineageOS on all my devices (it's actually my main criteria when buying a phone) to mainly install apps from F-Droid without relying on the Google Play Store. It has the same familiar look and feel on all devices and by experience is way snappier than the original ROM.

are you able to do any banking your phone?

3 banking apps running fine, until revolut decided to pull a douche move. i've ended my contract with them.

2 banking apps running fine.

Re: LineageOS 23

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Post by figmert »

throwing_away wrote: post #46
sltr wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

(Lineage user here) I've had no trouble with Schwab, USAA, Discover, Amex, Mercury, PayPal, Venmo, or Stripe. Phone is rooted with Magisk Hide and MicroG for spoofing google play services. Google Wallet does not work.

Google Wallet also doesn't work on Graphene OS. I just looked into this and in the US there's basically no technical answer that I'd expect to be reliable. You've got a few choices: * magsafe wallet (~$10) without nfc shield with a physical card * "purewrist" prepaid debit card (would be good for a kid maybe) * garmin smartwatch that gets linked properly like Google Pay would If you're in the EU there are a ton more…

Curve Pay is a viable option last I checked. I am unaware of any payment options on Amex UK app. Amex expects you to link your card with Google Wallet.

Re: LineageOS 23

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Post by whatevaa »

Incipient wrote: post #30
janice1999 wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can't blame the EU for Google pulling developer support for devices or holding back security patches. There are pros and cons to "big bloc regulation". You can go and start a phone company since so many things are standarised but the main constraint will be who you source a modem from and the lack of choice will be because of patents (see Apple vs Qualcomm).

Aren't there are a few modem vendors? MediaTek, Intel, and a bunch of Chinese players?

No? Especially since you mentioned Intel, who sold their modem business to Apple.

Re: LineageOS 23

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Post by udev4096 »

kahnclusions wrote: post #52
drnick1 wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Graphene is probably better on the devices that support both (Pixels), but since hardware support is so (intentionally) limited, it kind of a moot point. Also the Graphene community is kind of obsessed with "security" and does not seem to place much emphasis on freedom/hackability.

Why the scare quotes? Graphene’s focus on security is legitimate and well founded. They are the only phone OS that is consistently safe from hacking by the likes of Cellebrite long after all other androids have fallen.

And having security focused settings by default. For instance, the https://localmess.github.io tracking attempt was prevented on Vanadium (a browser maintained by GOS). Another serious vulnerability from top of my mind was TapTrap (https://taptrap.click/), which was fixed by GOS [1] few months ago. Android is still vulnerable to it!

[1] - https://grapheneos.org/releases#2025070700:~:text=only%20per...

Re: LineageOS 23

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Post by laktak »

I'd love to see a hybrid phone with an embedded stock android for banking, pay and government apps and a regular LinageOS or Linux OS that runs on a separate partition/hw/vm.

Like "gluing" two phones together - just better ;)

It would be great to run an open OS but having to carry a separate phone for banking/paying is not really a viable option.

Re: LineageOS 23

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Post by udev4096 »

le-mark wrote: post #4

LineageOS is an open source android distribution. Can anyone comment on who might use LineageOS and why?

It makes perfect sense to use it if you even remotely care about better performance, battery life and privacy. Google ships it's bloated apps which not only tracks everything and runs on privileged mode but degrades your battery life to a great extent

Re: LineageOS 23

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Post by udev4096 »

theandrewbailey wrote: post #18
andrepd wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you want to escape Google's monopoly, you can use LineageOS without google apps, as opposed to the malware and spyware-ridden trash that usually comes preinstalled on your phone.

Even if you run LineageOS without Google, LineageOS still phones home to Google for DNS and captive portal checks. https://eylenburg.github.io/android_comparison.htm

That can be easily patched. If you want a full "de-google" experience, GOS is the only perfect option
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