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Re: Scientists say X has lost its professional edge and Bluesky is taking its place

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Post by timeon »

AnotherGoodName wrote: post #3

X still appears above the fold in a special section on Google with custom previews. Eg. searching 'Anthony Albanese Bluesky' for Australia's leader has a link to X, with custom integrated previews, above the Bluesky link of the PM despite the search explicitly stating Bluesky and despite the account posting to Bluesky. It's hard for anyone to move over since the lack of engagement is rigged like this.

Interesting, maybe it also shows quality of search. I know that these are barely relevant compared to google, but Bing, Ecosia, etc. are showing Bluesky link.

Re: Scientists say X has lost its professional edge and Bluesky is taking its place

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Post by MontyCarloHall »

miltonlost wrote: post #45
hdlothia wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is 100% allowed, I just don't think it's really helpful or beneficial for them or society Especially when they try to lean on their status as scientists in order to try and have their opinions be more influential. The cdc for example saying it's ok to disregard their previous guidance in order to protest for black lives matter is one of these credibility damaging moments that is hard to undo.

> The cdc for example saying it's ok to disregard their previous guidance in order to protest for black lives matter is one of these credibility damaging moments that is hard to undo. When did this happen?

AFAIK, the CDC itself made no such official statement, but many prominent figures in public health, including a former CDC director [0], said just that.

[0] https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/06/04/public-hea...

Re: Scientists say X has lost its professional edge and Bluesky is taking its place

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Post by miltonlost »

hdlothia wrote: post #23
Q6T46nT668w6i3m wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you mean? Activism is an essential part of science but maybe I’m misunderstanding your use of “activist.”

I mean things like nature starting to make endorsements for president. Overly political for no reason.

When one political party is explicitly anti-science in its goals and aims and actions (RFK, global warming as a hoax, anti-vaxx, COVID as a hoax), Nature endorsing the person who is pro-science isn't political; it's existential. This is not "no reason". It's just not the reason you like because for some reason.

Re: Scientists say X has lost its professional edge and Bluesky is taking its place

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Post by lanyard-textile »

raincole wrote: post #8

According to Bluesky API data, it peaked in November 2024 (for obvious reasons...). [1]: https://bsky.jazco.dev/stats

It’s performing way better than I thought. Peak is only ~ x2 today’s baseline activity of 1.2M daily likers!

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Post by matwood »

glitchc wrote: post #20
Q6T46nT668w6i3m wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you mean? Activism is an essential part of science but maybe I’m misunderstanding your use of “activist.”

No, it's not. Good science requires objective thinking and evidence-based reasoning. Claims must be proven, not accepted based on authority or prima facie evidence.

Unfortunately, social media or whatever has changed science communication. A scientist can do amazing science, have total evidence based reasoning and then be completely ignored because some quack tells a good story on Rogan.

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Post by intended »

hdlothia wrote: post #6

It would be nice if scientists started being just scientists again instead of activists. Hopefully being cloistered on bluesky will bring the old vibes back

I doubt it. Most scientists are not activists. Yet, any scientist who achieves anything notable, has to be trained on how to deal with the media.

Science, and facts themselves, are political now.

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Post by hdlothia »

parrellel wrote: post #38
hdlothia wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean things like nature starting to make endorsements for president. Overly political for no reason.

They are planning on de-orbiting weather satellites because the administration doesn't believe in climate change. Nature was maybe on to something.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41562-023-01537-5. One study says the endorsement had little effect on voting intention but damaged credibility and perception of scientists.

Re: Scientists say X has lost its professional edge and Bluesky is taking its place

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Post by wat10000 »

fishgoesblub wrote: post #4

If only Bluesky could be as decentralised as the Fediverse [0] Trading one corporate overlord for another is not the smartest play. [0] https://arewedecentralizedyet.online/

The Twitter buyout should have made this obvious. When one company runs the whole thing, then some rich twat can wreck it on a whim, and there’s nothing you can do about it.
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