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Re: Hyprland Premium

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Post by EgregiousCube »

WD-42 wrote: post #4

This is the only DE/WM I have ever heard of having "premium" features. I don't have a problem with the developers trying to bring in some funding but this is bizarre. I predict there is around a 0% chance that someone won't fork hyprland and implement the premium features themselves. Especially in this scene.

I'm going to sub because the lead dev is a college kid who's poured his heart and soul into this thing I use every day. It's really just a donation and I think it's good of him to try to monetize somehow.

Re: Hyprland Premium

#52

Post by dartharva »

vbezhenar wrote: post #34

I miss simple Windows-like experience in Linux. I fondly remember GNOME 2 days. It was the best Linux experience I've ever had. Task bar with open window buttons and workspace switches. Icon tray. Start menu. It just worked. These days it's either GNOME with its weird approach to UI, KDE with infinite number of settings that put me into depression the moment I open their control panel or those weird tiled WMs which I…

Literally all desktop environments other than GNOME provide the experience you are looking for. Even GNOME can be made to act like that with customizations, e.g. https://zorin.com/os/

Re: Hyprland Premium

#53

Post by resoluteteeth »

turnsout wrote: post #23

It's surprising to me that attractive, GPU-accelerated window compositing is not a 100% solved problem in the Linux ecosystem. I'm assuming I'm missing some huge technical challenge. Does anyone have the ELI5 on this?

It is a solved problem but because of how Wayland works, window managers are also compositors, so if you want to make a new window manager you are actually technically making a "compositor", although most of the small ones just implement window management on top of wlroots.

Most people would just use kde or gnome which have their own compositors.

Re: Hyprland Premium

#54

Post by boomskats »

I really don't understand why all the lazy complaints about how the 'purchase a hyprland premium subscription' page doesn't provide an exhaustive explanation of what Hyprland is are top of this comments section. The homepage, at https://hypr.land, does that pretty well.

As for the move by the hyprland maintainers to go down this freemiumesque route (which I assume is why this link was actually posted and is top of HN), all I'll say is that Niri[0] is absolutely fantastic, and I expect it's about to get even more popular.

[0]: https://github.com/yalter/niri

Re: Hyprland Premium

#55

Post by awkwardpotato »

bjackman wrote: post #24
kjuulh wrote: post #5

I've got absolutely no problem with them taking donations / having a premium option. But it is very difficult to comment on when there is no indication what the premium experience brings.

I dunno if they changed the website since it was posted... But it literally lists exactly what you get? (Basically, nothing, it's more or less a donation)

> Premium Desktop Experience (soon)

It doesn't explain what the "premium" desktop features will be or what it will include over standard Hyprland

Re: Hyprland Premium

#56

Post by bowsamic »

vbezhenar wrote: post #34

I miss simple Windows-like experience in Linux. I fondly remember GNOME 2 days. It was the best Linux experience I've ever had. Task bar with open window buttons and workspace switches. Icon tray. Start menu. It just worked. These days it's either GNOME with its weird approach to UI, KDE with infinite number of settings that put me into depression the moment I open their control panel or those weird tiled WMs which I…

I think XFCE works for it, but yeah it seems like everyone is begging for the old Windows, SerenityOS style (or insert whatever else here) experience

Re: Hyprland Premium

#57

Post by bowsamic »

kjuulh wrote: post #11
calmbonsai wrote: post #6

How to fail at a product website lesson #1: Don't describe the purpose and show the experience of your product on the home page. I have no idea what "Hyperland" is.

It is weird, this is their main website: https://hypr.land/ Which has a demo. This website seems to only be for the account / payments.

It looks really horrible

Re: Hyprland Premium

#58

Post by yjftsjthsd-h »

vbezhenar wrote: post #34

I miss simple Windows-like experience in Linux. I fondly remember GNOME 2 days. It was the best Linux experience I've ever had. Task bar with open window buttons and workspace switches. Icon tray. Start menu. It just worked. These days it's either GNOME with its weird approach to UI, KDE with infinite number of settings that put me into depression the moment I open their control panel or those weird tiled WMs which I…

This is easy to accomplish.

> I fondly remember GNOME 2 days. It was the best Linux experience I've ever had.

You can just use MATE, which is just GNOME 2 forked and continued.

> KDE with infinite number of settings that put me into depression the moment I open their control panel

Okay, then don't do that. KDE's defaults are fine. The fact that options exist is not harmful to you.

> or those weird tiled WMs which I have zero interest in, because I almost never split my screen, all my windows are maximised 99% of time.

You can use i3/sway with

  workspace_layout tabbed
and have all your windows maximized unless you explicitly force them to do something else.

Re: Hyprland Premium

#59

Post by hd4 »

d_tr wrote: post #40
hd4 wrote: post #10

I've been using hyprland for about 6 months now, it's undeniably performant, buttery-smooth even but there are still a lot of paper cuts there - I have a feeling this will piss quite a few people off given the temperament in the Linux community for subscription-based software; also feel like it's not really the smartest thing to do if good alternatives already exist for what you're building (sway is not far off in qu…

> sway is not far off in quality You mean it is better or worse in your experience?

didn't use sway for long enough to form an opinion. it did feel kind of workhorse-ish and boring which in hindsight is probably better. I was curious to see what I would get on a fairly old (intel iGPU) machine in terms of sheer performance with hyprland given it is fully GPU-accelerated through OpenGL and it was refreshing honestly. it's easy to see how they thought they could monetize it, pure looks and raw performance are very appealing to end-users.

the websites for both are a nice heuristic imo.

Re: Hyprland Premium

#60

Post by Out_of_Characte »

I do like hyprland, Its what I have installed. I hope they can offer 5$. of value to people with their 'premium' experience, I just think its either way too little or way too much additional support for what their price suggests.

Things that are close to this value proposition:

Video streaming services

Email

Online game subscriptions

Data backups

VPN

Very few of these actually offer anything for 5$ a month and they do not offer 'customer support' or 'forum support' in the way you would probaly expect from people that offer that for your linux desktop. If anything, I expect the value proposition to be more like custom art pieces, where someone actually sits down with you for an hour, writes down what you want and programs up an entirely artisic desktop representation for whatever theme/idea you have. That would cost hundreds of dollars and would be a far better value proposition and the person in question could always be called upon for aftercare and newer projects.

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