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Re: Galaxy Nexus ban remains, Apple posts $95.6M bond, Google stops selling

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Post by scarmig »

hugoc wrote: post #42
vibrunazo wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same for me. Been looking to replace my dell notebook and was looking into the Macbook Air with ubuntu as the alternative. Was just comparing prices and specs on the Apple's website last week. I used to think Apple's success was great for us consumers because it's more choice, and competition is why companies are innovating in the first place, right? But this latest injunction made me realize, if I give money to Appl…

Fortunately now there are serious alternatives to the Macbook Air http://www.anandtech.com/show/5843/asus-zenbook-prime-ux21a-...

Also consider Asus' UX31A, which has a drool-worthy 1920x1080 matte IPS display.

Another exciting option is Lenovo's Carbon X1, which I wish they would release already: http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/15/lenovo-thinkpad-x1-carbon...

Re: Galaxy Nexus ban remains, Apple posts $95.6M bond, Google stops selling

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Post by loceng »

scarmig wrote: post #11

Sigh. I've been planning on getting a new notebook and was leaning toward one of Apple's products... but this has shifted me away. I know, I know: no one cares about nerd ideologies. But I'll do my part and lower their monthly revenues by 0.00001%.

I'm getting Galaxy S3 instead of iPhone - easy decision now. Just more proof that shows that patents slow innovation, increase costs, and reduces/limits the amount of people who can get access to the technology; Innovation will occur if people have the tools they need to build the innovation, design new tools, and reach the public who would 'vote' on the technology by mechanisms like pre-buying. Patents need to go. People need to stop fearing competition. Controlled ecosystems are bad for everyone, including the people stressing over maintaining the control.

Re: Galaxy Nexus ban remains, Apple posts $95.6M bond, Google stops selling

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Post by loceng »

hugoc wrote: post #42
vibrunazo wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same for me. Been looking to replace my dell notebook and was looking into the Macbook Air with ubuntu as the alternative. Was just comparing prices and specs on the Apple's website last week. I used to think Apple's success was great for us consumers because it's more choice, and competition is why companies are innovating in the first place, right? But this latest injunction made me realize, if I give money to Appl…

Fortunately now there are serious alternatives to the Macbook Air http://www.anandtech.com/show/5843/asus-zenbook-prime-ux21a-...

Oh lovely - thank you for sharing. The ASUS logo on the back could do some work. A symbol is much easier to digest than letters.

Re: Galaxy Nexus ban remains, Apple posts $95.6M bond, Google stops selling

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Post by ptrklly »

I actually had added the Galaxy Nexus to my shopping cart yesterday and then tried to buy today but couldn't. It was only in reading this that I realized why.

Does anyone have any insights into how many days/weeks before Google will be able to sell it again?

Re: Galaxy Nexus ban remains, Apple posts $95.6M bond, Google stops selling

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Post by huggyface »

UnoriginalGuy wrote: post #13

The Galaxy SIII is still available and basically the same phone. Seems like there are just too many Android devices for Apple to block them all, they're just picking on the Galaxy Nexus to take a pot-shot at Google directly.

The Galaxy SIII is still available and basically the same phone

The Galaxy S III is an entirely different device sharing virtually nothing with the Galaxy Nexus.

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Post by angryasian »

sbuk wrote: post #35
angryasian wrote: post #22

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If we're comparing current iterations. Android now looks nothing like ios and in actuality ios is looking more like android. Adding polish and bigger icons for touch to existing ui was all Apple did. Objectively look back at early Blackberry and Nokia phones. Where they they completely innovated on was multitouch and getting rid of the stylus.

"Yeah, what have the Romans ever done for us?"

I didn't mean to discount their accomplishments as I do think they made huge strides in the pushing of manufacturing of mobile components along with pushing the competition. But the look of grid icons, and pim applications has relatively remained unchanged.

Re: Galaxy Nexus ban remains, Apple posts $95.6M bond, Google stops selling

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Post by vibrunazo »

moe wrote: post #49
hugoc wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fortunately now there are serious alternatives to the Macbook Air http://www.anandtech.com/show/5843/asus-zenbook-prime-ux21a-...

Just skimmed the review and that does indeed look like a fine device. Completely unrelated: Why do vendors (including Apple) insist on plastering their ugly company logos on the back? Both the macbook and the zenbook would look much better without that white scar.

Branding in the strongest selling point of Apple products. They may have their flaws, but they're genius in their branding. They put an Apple logo in the back, for the same reason they give out Apple stickers for your car. For the same reason they put "sent from my iphone" at the end of an email. For the same reason their billionaire campaign insisted to "think different". Even their pixel placement choice has branding in mind. Apple engineering sacrificed multi-tasking to make sure scrolling could be displayed at 60fps, just so that holding a competing product "just doesn't feel like an Apple". That's ingenious branding being consistent at every layer of the company.

They want to you feel emotionally and better than others, and proud to show off the Apple logo. And they're the best in the world at doing this. That's why you saw all those posts angry at instagram when they launched for Android, claiming it wouldn't be as great now that the unwashed masses could touch it.

Re: Galaxy Nexus ban remains, Apple posts $95.6M bond, Google stops selling

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Post by huggyface »

rimantas wrote: post #41
scarmig wrote: post #11

Sigh. I've been planning on getting a new notebook and was leaning toward one of Apple's products... but this has shifted me away. I know, I know: no one cares about nerd ideologies. But I'll do my part and lower their monthly revenues by 0.00001%.

Well, you chose to avoid good product because of the stupid ideology. Why stupid? Because you can easily find a reason to hate Google the same or even more (the whole FRAND thing e.g.). OTOH, people are not rational, nothing new here so this love/hate boils down to subjective preferences rationalized a lot. I like Apple because they make damn good products. Damn good products make them damn good money. Google makes m…

the whole FRAND thing

Why would I hate Google for that? Motorola was cooperative and competitive with partners and despite all of their innovation they ended up -- like most of their traditional smartphone partners -- with most of their creations ending up in standards. Getting attacked by Apple and Microsoft they try to force a settlement with what they have. there is nothing in that that makes me dislike Motorola cum Google.

it was said more than once there—hate the game, not the player.

The xbox may be blocked because of critical, foundational patents, but I'm supposed to feel bad about the parties because they tried to be cooperative about them. The Galaxy Nexus is blocked because of laughable patents.

There is no question who the worse party is in this, and it's only a matter of time before something sticks and the iPhone/iPad is blocked from importation. We'll see how people like the game then.

Re: Galaxy Nexus ban remains, Apple posts $95.6M bond, Google stops selling

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Post by rimantas »

napoleoncomplex wrote: post #47
rimantas wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, you chose to avoid good product because of the stupid ideology. Why stupid? Because you can easily find a reason to hate Google the same or even more (the whole FRAND thing e.g.). OTOH, people are not rational, nothing new here so this love/hate boils down to subjective preferences rationalized a lot. I like Apple because they make damn good products. Damn good products make them damn good money. Google makes m…

I don't think it's in any way unreasonable or stupid for people to avoid products of a certain company based on disagreement with that company's business policy, no matter the quality of those products. I can't come up with something catchier than hate the game, not the player, but I think the game is always going to stay shitty if people support players who show no interest in changing the game.

I am not saying it is unreasonable, just that it is not rational. The whole disagreement thing is just what wee chose to pay attention to and what to ignore. You can take any tech company and paint it however you want just by cherry-picking.

Re: Galaxy Nexus ban remains, Apple posts $95.6M bond, Google stops selling

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Post by drivebyacct2 »

scarmig wrote: post #51
hugoc wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fortunately now there are serious alternatives to the Macbook Air http://www.anandtech.com/show/5843/asus-zenbook-prime-ux21a-...

Also consider Asus' UX31A, which has a drool-worthy 1920x1080 matte IPS display. Another exciting option is Lenovo's Carbon X1, which I wish they would release already: http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/15/lenovo-thinkpad-x1-carbon...

Just a heads up, the UX21A has the 1920x1080 IPS screen too.
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