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Mobifree – An open-source mobile ecosystem

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Re: Mobifree – An open-source mobile ecosystem

#51
The Mobifree link in the article: https://mobifree.org

Looks sketchy to me.

> Our values are different

Why?

> Big Tech: bad for people and the environment

Bad for the environment how? Do they think if they operate at the same scale as big tech, they'll be able to do a better job of managing infrastructure?

Re: Mobifree – An open-source mobile ecosystem

#52
post #27

F-Droid still has some big tasks in order to be useable for the general public, when comparing it with e.g. Google Play Store. For example, if you search it for "browser", Firefox will not show up because A) It's called Fennec B) The F-Droid search seems to be exact infix search, and Fennec's title is "Fennec F-Droid -- Browse the web", in which "Browser" does not appear, only "browse". So it doesn't find it. In gene…

I think policies[1] are blocking F-Droid more than anything from being a viable alternative. A bank will likely never release their app as open source, nor will any of the big authentication vendors. This means that you cannot completely replace the Google Play Store with F-Droid if you have to use any of these, you can only use it as an additional store, at which point many won't be bothered.

[1]: https://f-droid.org/en/docs/Inclusion_Policy/

Re: Mobifree – An open-source mobile ecosystem

#53

At this point the access points and the global data and surveillance system is too complicated and interconnected to dis-intermediate the access point and the network itself That is to say you cannot even connect to IP addresses unless you’re already part of the global whitelist for APs Try yourself. Get a VPN and then connect from certain regions and to won’t get very far and you’ll be slooooow You’ll say, oh, that’…

> The Internet is 99% controlled by a small set of corporations that most people haven’t heard of I would love to know more if you have time to elaborate.

See this post that talks about how hosting email yourself doesn't really work anymore, despite it being an open internet standard -- https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32715437

Not sure about people never hearing about them, but the internet is no longer a network of sparsely distributed connected machines hosting and consuming content as it was originally designed. The content is all hosted on very small set of networks controlled by just a few companies -- Amazon AWS, Google, MS Azure, etc. The consumers access the internet through clients that are also controlled by these companies, and so it's easy for them to exclude other networks and hosts even though the network specification is technically "open".

Re: Mobifree – An open-source mobile ecosystem

#54

The Mobifree link in the article: https://mobifree.org Looks sketchy to me. > Our values are different Why? > Big Tech: bad for people and the environment Bad for the environment how? Do they think if they operate at the same scale as big tech, they'll be able to do a better job of managing infrastructure?

> Bad for the environment how?

I guess this relate to smartphones being out of support way too early.

Re: Mobifree – An open-source mobile ecosystem

#55
post #14

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You should consider actually trying it, before you confidently write it off. F-Droid is amazing and the single-greatest force keeping me off the official Google Play and YouTube apps. I don't suffer through ad-enabled PDF readers or subscription-service native apps; it's all just free software, and it beats the pants off every other mobile software store I've ever used. It is actually that good.

Re: Mobifree – An open-source mobile ecosystem

#57
post #27

F-Droid still has some big tasks in order to be useable for the general public, when comparing it with e.g. Google Play Store. For example, if you search it for "browser", Firefox will not show up because A) It's called Fennec B) The F-Droid search seems to be exact infix search, and Fennec's title is "Fennec F-Droid -- Browse the web", in which "Browser" does not appear, only "browse". So it doesn't find it. In gene…

Use droidify a alternative fork of fdroid

Droidify is so vastly superior it’s not even close. Fdroid still has the privileged extension whereas droidify and Neodroid can use Shizuku and other options.

I do think that droidify is an unfortunate naming choice though.

Re: Mobifree – An open-source mobile ecosystem

#58
post #41

Basing something around a Google OS isn’t really an alternative to big tech. Given the reaction I’d expect if a Microsoft Open Source project was the basis of an “alternative to big tech”, I don’t see why something with a Google pedigree should be treated differently.

Expecting Microsoft to create an alternative to big tech. Did I miss the /s ?

Re: Mobifree – An open-source mobile ecosystem

#59
post #12

"This project has been made possible by funding from the European Commission's Next Generation Internet (NGI) initiative: www.ngi.eu"

EU funding is the kiss of death for technology initiatives. I can confidently predict that this will go nowhere.

NLNet is an NGO and has been funding a lot of cool stuff.

Re: Mobifree – An open-source mobile ecosystem

#60
post #27

F-Droid still has some big tasks in order to be useable for the general public, when comparing it with e.g. Google Play Store. For example, if you search it for "browser", Firefox will not show up because A) It's called Fennec B) The F-Droid search seems to be exact infix search, and Fennec's title is "Fennec F-Droid -- Browse the web", in which "Browser" does not appear, only "browse". So it doesn't find it. In gene…

I think policies[1] are blocking F-Droid more than anything from being a viable alternative. A bank will likely never release their app as open source, nor will any of the big authentication vendors. This means that you cannot completely replace the Google Play Store with F-Droid if you have to use any of these, you can only use it as an additional store, at which point many won't be bothered. [1]: https://f-droid.or…

It's also its strength and raison d'etre. What use is F-droid if it starts including proprietary software?
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