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Mobifree – An open-source mobile ecosystem

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Re: Mobifree – An open-source mobile ecosystem

#12

"This project has been made possible by funding from the European Commission's Next Generation Internet (NGI) initiative: www.ngi.eu"

EU funding is the kiss of death for technology initiatives. I can confidently predict that this will go nowhere.

Re: Mobifree – An open-source mobile ecosystem

#13
At this point the access points and the global data and surveillance system is too complicated and interconnected to dis-intermediate the access point and the network itself

That is to say you cannot even connect to IP addresses unless you’re already part of the global whitelist for APs

Try yourself. Get a VPN and then connect from certain regions and to won’t get very far and you’ll be slooooow

You’ll say, oh, that’s because bad actors and are therefore blacklisted - and now you’re back to the same problem: their resource is being limited by some social structure that is by definition constrained

You cannot differentiate the broader system from the access point, so long as the system controls which access point access then it doesn’t matter what you do

The only solution is to build an entirely new Internet from scratch, not controlled by the people currently google, amazon, cloud flare, respective ISPs, Netflix, etc…

The Internet is 99% controlled by a small set of corporations that most people haven’t heard of

Just try launching a competitive DNS service and see how far you get

Re: Mobifree – An open-source mobile ecosystem

#16
post #7

project works to give European citizens and organizations more choice Ok but why the geographical restriction?

Because European governments are passing/have passed regulations forcing big tech companies to open up their platforms. (it’s also taking funding from the EU, doesn’t necessarily mean they’re forced to cater only to EU citizens but the combination of these two factors means it makes sense to)

> passed regulations forcing big tech companies

More Euro governance, bleh.

Re: Mobifree – An open-source mobile ecosystem

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post #3

They don't explain how they fix even one of the problems they mention at the top. Maybe I'm missing something here but this is just pure marketing bleh.

The first paragraph introduces the idea of a comprehensive initiative for an "all of the above" mobile ecosystem, listing out the key pieces of that ecosystem.

Then there's a lot of mission statement and vision statement type things that appear to be directed at a broad audience, But then specifically they say this:

>F-Droid will play a major role in this project, tasked with creating a decentralized distribution system for developers to deliver apps to Android users.

It feels like that's kind of what F-droid does already (sans decentralization, unless we regard the capability of custom repos as adequate to the task).

So I get the vision, I get the idea of it being under the umbrella of some broader project that's about other aspects of the mobile ecosystem such as operating systems, cloud services, and so on. I'm not sure what's different but I welcome the spirit of the initiative and I suppose that's the important thing.

Re: Mobifree – An open-source mobile ecosystem

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post #3

They don't explain how they fix even one of the problems they mention at the top. Maybe I'm missing something here but this is just pure marketing bleh.

I believe F-Droid is operating under a series of grants totaling €4.4 million for the next two years. This release is probably directed at the various groups funding them.

I hope they succeed but I wish they were using something other than Android. A by-Europeans-for-Europeans project shouldn't be based on an American OS IMHO.

https://cordis.europa.eu/project/id/101135795

Re: Mobifree – An open-source mobile ecosystem

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post #17

I can't figure out what "it" actually is. This blog post reads like something AI generated - what exactly are they talking about?

Decentralized mobile app distribution for Android.

For my part I feel perfectly clear on what the "it" is but I'm a little unclear on how it's in a different from what F-Droid already does.

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