better do gps spoofing
Pokémon Go players are altering public map data to catch rare Pokémon
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Re: Pokémon Go players are altering public map data to catch rare Pokémon
#52I gotta give props to the players for their clever hacks. But also this brings up a good point -- the game is inherently unfair to people who don't have the means to travel. Someone in the middle of the country can't legitimately travel to a beach area. And there are some Pokemon that are restricted to a particular continent. Which means you either have to be rich or have a rich friend who can go to those places and…
I know a guy who plays Ingress, the Pokemon Go precursor where different teams claim locatios. There's one valuable location on an island fort (Pampus) that's closed in winter, so every autumn there was always a flurry of players trying to be the last to claim it before the winter. But this guy has a pilot license, so he just flies a sports plane over the island to claim it just after it closed. There's travel privil…
Knowing pilots, it may just be an excuse to fly.
Re: Pokémon Go players are altering public map data to catch rare Pokémon
#53> others become "very careful, trustworthy" OSM users who "make many worthy additions to the map" by accurately mapping out places where OSM's data is patchy or outdated. The xz debacle manifested in a different way
I thought you were just going to point out that maybe the net result was positive, lol. I'd take OSM being useful in 90% more places in exchange for some fake beaches.
Really, though, the quote you took was from the last paragraph of the article and was referring to players who didn't abuse their power, not people who built up a reputation just to plant something later. So it's not really an xz incident equivalent.
Re: Pokémon Go players are altering public map data to catch rare Pokémon
#54I gotta give props to the players for their clever hacks. But also this brings up a good point -- the game is inherently unfair to people who don't have the means to travel. Someone in the middle of the country can't legitimately travel to a beach area. And there are some Pokemon that are restricted to a particular continent. Which means you either have to be rich or have a rich friend who can go to those places and…
In the original games you had to go out to catch Pokémon.
The world is big…
There’s a whole life outside.
Re: Pokémon Go players are altering public map data to catch rare Pokémon
#55I gotta give props to the players for their clever hacks. But also this brings up a good point -- the game is inherently unfair to people who don't have the means to travel. Someone in the middle of the country can't legitimately travel to a beach area. And there are some Pokemon that are restricted to a particular continent. Which means you either have to be rich or have a rich friend who can go to those places and…
Should the game be inherently fair? Part of the fun is rewarding exploration over time as a life-long pokemon trainer trying to catch them all. You gotta go to all the regions to accomplish that. Maybe it'll take a long time!
> Should the game be inherently fair? ... Maybe it'll take a long time!
I don't think "maybe it'll take a long time!" is an apt response to "the game is unfair". The parent isn't objecting that it's unfair because it might take a long time, they're objecting that it's unfair because many people can't afford to travel the world. Maybe a better response would be:
> Should the game be inherently fair? ... Maybe it should take tens of thousands of dollars!
While I don't find that compelling, it at least seems more logical IMHO.
Re: Pokémon Go players are altering public map data to catch rare Pokémon
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Re: Pokémon Go players are altering public map data to catch rare Pokémon
#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Should the game be inherently fair? No, but the fairness should be based on skills and engagement, not the size of your wallet.
arguing that "you should be able to get the whole experience regardless of your location" is basically arguing against the entire category of location-based entertainment products. The experience is related to your location. That is literally the product.
Obvious straw man. No one is arguing that location based games shouldn't factor in location. The claim was that success in the game shouldn't be dependent on the size of your wallet. You can have location based games that don't require you to travel internationally or even across regions in one's own country, for example.
Re: Pokémon Go players are altering public map data to catch rare Pokémon
#58I gotta give props to the players for their clever hacks. But also this brings up a good point -- the game is inherently unfair to people who don't have the means to travel. Someone in the middle of the country can't legitimately travel to a beach area. And there are some Pokemon that are restricted to a particular continent. Which means you either have to be rich or have a rich friend who can go to those places and…
> Someone in the middle of the country can't legitimately travel to a beach area.
Lakes and sometimes rivers have beaches.
Re: Pokémon Go players are altering public map data to catch rare Pokémon
#59I gotta give props to the players for their clever hacks. But also this brings up a good point -- the game is inherently unfair to people who don't have the means to travel. Someone in the middle of the country can't legitimately travel to a beach area. And there are some Pokemon that are restricted to a particular continent. Which means you either have to be rich or have a rich friend who can go to those places and…
Cant this be easily circumvented with a GPS spoofer app?
Re: Pokémon Go players are altering public map data to catch rare Pokémon
#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
I know a guy who plays Ingress, the Pokemon Go precursor where different teams claim locatios. There's one valuable location on an island fort (Pampus) that's closed in winter, so every autumn there was always a flurry of players trying to be the last to claim it before the winter. But this guy has a pilot license, so he just flies a sports plane over the island to claim it just after it closed. There's travel privil…
Knowing pilots, it may just be an excuse to fly.
Can confirm. I'm a pilot, and used to play Ingress pretty heavily, and while it's not the most reliable thing on the planet, a few of us had worked out "Planegress" pretty well. You have to be careful to not trip the "travel rate" limiters, so basically "pop online over the target area, and don't interact except over the target portal." Pilot plays around with slow flight (depending on winds aloft, in the range of 30-40mph ground speed), passengers do what needs to be done. I never messed with it, but some people used HAM radio equipment for remote connectivity for Ingress as well, or satellite based stuff.
But it's absolutely "an excuse to go do some precision ground reference slow flight in areas you wouldn't normally be."