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Over the edge: The use of design tactics to undermine browser choice

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Re: Over the edge: The use of design tactics to undermine browser choice

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MacOS allows you to "hard click" (long click) a text selection in any application, which pops up a bubble that lets you do a web search for that phrase. But the search only launches Safari. I wasted at least a couple hours scouring boards and kext files, screwing with automation macros, trying to find a way to make this potentially helpful shortcut not open Safari, but instead open Firefox. Eventually I just gave up.…

It's bullshit like this that makes linux attractive.

Re: Over the edge: The use of design tactics to undermine browser choice

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Windows just keeps getting weirder. There's this regrettable dichotomy between (1) a rock solid OS core with great features like Hyper-V, PowerShell and exceptional back-compat, and (2) a crap, sluggish, inconsistent UI slapped on top, laden with ads, "Rewards" Points and tracking.

When I was a kid it was just a crappy, sluggish, inconsistent UI built on top of DOS.

That was the “Windows 95” lineage. NT was solid from the start (which is why MS then also made it the basis for XP).

Re: Over the edge: The use of design tactics to undermine browser choice

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I kind of get the vibe that Mozilla is laying the groundworks for Microsoft vs Netscape Round II - or at least some kind of antitrust litigation.

I really wish they'd go after Apple and Safari. Safari is basically the modern day IE. Whenever I do anything slightly weird, I'm fairly confident it works in chrome/Firefox and almost sure that it's broken in safari.

The fact that you can't test on Safari without osx is insane. Some bugs can be reproduced in other WebKit browsers (I test with epiphany) but some are safari only. Not to mention the fact that Safari is the only choice on Apple mobile devices.

I believe Apple is significantly worse than Microsoft in regards to browsers. I wish Mozilla would focus on them.

Re: Over the edge: The use of design tactics to undermine browser choice

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

When I was a kid it was just a crappy, sluggish, inconsistent UI built on top of DOS.

That was the “Windows 95” lineage. NT was solid from the start (which is why MS then also made it the basis for XP).

I should have added /s. It was Windows 3, actually. But I was just riffing on the parent to point out that we've come full circle.

Re: Over the edge: The use of design tactics to undermine browser choice

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Many years ago, they used to charge a not inconsiderable amount for Windows. Given the trend towards making an OS cheap/free, I wonder is this some corporate response driven by a department somewhere that is charged with balancing the books.

That's the worst part (and I know that most people will never buy a license because they get it through their OEM or just crack it) but Microsoft are still happy to charge you £220 for a Windows 11 Pro licence [0] and shove ads in your face. [0] https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/d/windows-11-pro/dg7gmgf0d8h...

The second all my games are fully compatible with Linux natively, I'm ditching that horrible "does it all, but poorly" corporation.

Re: Over the edge: The use of design tactics to undermine browser choice

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Not an answer but better alternative: Kagi. Paid, but it pays for itself. Not affiliated. Just satisfied.

How about for people where having to log in to search is a nonstarter? Has a method to be able to take payments without the ability to track the users been invented yet?

Use a burner email and pay via Bitcoin?

Re: Over the edge: The use of design tactics to undermine browser choice

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post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's the worst part (and I know that most people will never buy a license because they get it through their OEM or just crack it) but Microsoft are still happy to charge you £220 for a Windows 11 Pro licence [0] and shove ads in your face. [0] https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/d/windows-11-pro/dg7gmgf0d8h...

The second all my games are fully compatible with Linux natively, I'm ditching that horrible "does it all, but poorly" corporation.

How recently have you tried. Obviously YMMV, but all mine already are. Proton is a thing of beauty.

Re: Over the edge: The use of design tactics to undermine browser choice

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

When I was a kid it was just a crappy, sluggish, inconsistent UI built on top of DOS.

That was the “Windows 95” lineage. NT was solid from the start (which is why MS then also made it the basis for XP).

NT was far more resource-demanding (i.e. "sluggish") than 9x due to all the abstractions - it's just the hardware that progressed so fast in a few years that it was kind of irrelevant.

Re: Over the edge: The use of design tactics to undermine browser choice

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post #26

Windows just keeps getting weirder. There's this regrettable dichotomy between (1) a rock solid OS core with great features like Hyper-V, PowerShell and exceptional back-compat, and (2) a crap, sluggish, inconsistent UI slapped on top, laden with ads, "Rewards" Points and tracking.

WSL2, power toys and hands down the best window management of any OS, I hate working on my MBP just due to the difficulty of managing different windows and aligning them on the same desktop.

I have a question for you: If you make a Pie Chart with the time you send on each OS: Linux, Windows and Mac, what will be the percentages? Specially while you were young.

Of all the languages I speak, German is the more chaotic language by far. But most native Germans consider it the best/easiest.

For me the Windows management of Windows is horrible, but I spent like 90% of my time in Linux were I was young, even using things like "screen" that uses the command line and shortcuts to be the most efficient thing I have ever used (while requiring learning the shortcuts before becoming productive).

Today I use Mac like 95% of my time, control Linux machines with it and use Windows when the force of circumstance obliges me the 5%.

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