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Re: Gang crisis shaking Sweden

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The title is all this site is willing to divulge to me. I just took the train into the city, had a burger & beer, and soon I'll train back home. I have zero worries about my safety. Anyway, the Right party pulled the balance of power from the Left and formed a centre/right coalition more than a year ago, because of all the bad people coming here and doing bad things. Weren't they going to fix this?

Try to stay there for a month, in shady part of town! Current goverment is at least trying to police those places!

I've lived several months in an area considered to be one of the worst in Sweden, zero problems whatsoever.

The standard for bad in Sweden is just pretty damn high.

Re: Gang crisis shaking Sweden

#53

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> Compare Italians in the US to these people; one group desperately wanted to belong the other doesn’t give a shit.

To be fair the US spent a good part of the 1980s at war with the American offshoot of the Cosa Nostra, so I'm not sure if this is the best example.

Re: Gang crisis shaking Sweden

#54

While this does indeed sound like a problem for Sweden and something they will have to fix, it's worth pointing out that by my calculation the US fatal assault by fire arm rate is 12X the rate that is causing a crisis in Sweden.

In Sweden, the big problem are grenades smuggled in vast quantities from the Balkans.

Explosions tend to be vastly less precise than shootings and unintended victims are more of a rule than an exception.

Re: Gang crisis shaking Sweden

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https://archive.is/Le71e

Is anyone else unable to get through this capture page? Every time it comes up I end up doing countless captures, clicking not a robot, round and round, never get through.

This happens if you're using Cloudflare DNS: https://jarv.is/notes/cloudflare-dns-archive-is-blocked/ (Sounds like iCloud private relay may do the same for the same reasons).

Re: Gang crisis shaking Sweden

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While this does indeed sound like a problem for Sweden and something they will have to fix, it's worth pointing out that by my calculation the US fatal assault by fire arm rate is 12X the rate that is causing a crisis in Sweden.

What does the US have to do with the article? Why is it a relevant country for comparison?

Re: Gang crisis shaking Sweden

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post #4

The title is all this site is willing to divulge to me. I just took the train into the city, had a burger & beer, and soon I'll train back home. I have zero worries about my safety. Anyway, the Right party pulled the balance of power from the Left and formed a centre/right coalition more than a year ago, because of all the bad people coming here and doing bad things. Weren't they going to fix this?

Are they deporting immigrants (regardless of country of origin) involved in violent crimes? Genuine question. I know rehabilitation is different in Europe than the US, but there are likely resource constraints for attempting to do so at scale looking at trailing immigration volume.

They very often are not able to deport. Because no country takes those people in. The laws are in place but there are few ethical options.

Same story for the border closing in Finland by the way. You are dealing with a deeply unethical state, so when you don't let them in, these people will have to die. Because the other side knows that you are more likely to give in out of ethical principle.

Re: Gang crisis shaking Sweden

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

this is one of those statements that is too ambiguous for the internet. It's hard to know if you are being sarcastic? Attempting satire? Or you are trying to make a joke, or genuinely don't know what you are talking about. So, can you clarify?

No I am serious, if you are comparing murders, you should include all weapons! There are regional differences! Fire arms are heavily regulated and relatively hard to get in EU. We are close to war zones, hand grenades are easier to smuggle, and are used in Sweden. If you include murders by knife, London is worse than US! Edit: also you wrote "assault" that could include anything from armed robbery without health inju…

ok I've updated it to show that I mean "fatal" assault by firearms.

Quick google search brings up the following "All in all, there were 77 incidents of detonated hand grenades in Sweden during the six-year observation period, in which nine individuals were injured and one killed."

is this what you are talking about? Doesn't sound that dramatic.

Seems like you are just trolling. Especially with the throwaway account, hard to take what you are saying seriously.

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