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Re: Gang crisis shaking Sweden

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Saying "unrelated" is begging the question.

According to you, the "right" is claiming recent immigration is related to the "violent gang crisis" mentioned, and the "left" is instead claiming that the privatization of the welfare system is related to said crisis.

Re: Gang crisis shaking Sweden

#13
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The title is all this site is willing to divulge to me. I just took the train into the city, had a burger & beer, and soon I'll train back home. I have zero worries about my safety. Anyway, the Right party pulled the balance of power from the Left and formed a centre/right coalition more than a year ago, because of all the bad people coming here and doing bad things. Weren't they going to fix this?

Are they deporting immigrants (regardless of country of origin) involved in violent crimes? Genuine question. I know rehabilitation is different in Europe than the US, but there are likely resource constraints for attempting to do so at scale looking at trailing immigration volume.

Generally, in any country, if your asylum/refugee claim is accepted, they won't deport you back to origin unless the situation you were escaping has resolved.

(I'm guessing its generally asylum/refugee immigrants people are complaining about, not those from elsewhere in europe)

Re: Gang crisis shaking Sweden

#14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are they deporting immigrants (regardless of country of origin) involved in violent crimes? Genuine question. I know rehabilitation is different in Europe than the US, but there are likely resource constraints for attempting to do so at scale looking at trailing immigration volume.

Generally, in any country, if your asylum/refugee claim is accepted, they won't deport you back to origin unless the situation you were escaping has resolved. (I'm guessing its generally asylum/refugee immigrants people are complaining about, not those from elsewhere in europe)

That’s unfortunate if an immigrant won’t assimilate responsibly into their host country and causes continuing harm through this policy. You’re just importing future prisoners and criminals.

Refugees/immigrants/etc should be welcomed (I have sponsored refugees in the US), but violent crime must be prevented if someone runs out of chances. You need some recourse when you run out of options and people who have immigrated refuse to act in good faith. Immigration is a gift and a privilege.

Re: Gang crisis shaking Sweden

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post #4

The title is all this site is willing to divulge to me. I just took the train into the city, had a burger & beer, and soon I'll train back home. I have zero worries about my safety. Anyway, the Right party pulled the balance of power from the Left and formed a centre/right coalition more than a year ago, because of all the bad people coming here and doing bad things. Weren't they going to fix this?

Try to stay there for a month, in shady part of town! Current goverment is at least trying to police those places!

Re: Gang crisis shaking Sweden

#18

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Saying "unrelated" is begging the question. According to you, the "right" is claiming recent immigration is related to the "violent gang crisis" mentioned, and the "left" is instead claiming that the privatization of the welfare system is related to said crisis.

Their argument is that the left wing side are responsible, and are incorrectly blaming social factors other than the mass immigration of third world refugees who are now creating a gang ridden hellscape in parts of Sweden, emulating their original homelands. That is not begging the question.

Re: Gang crisis shaking Sweden

#20

While this does indeed sound like a problem for Sweden and something they will have to fix, it's worth pointing out that by my calculation the US fatal assault by fire arm rate is 12X the rate that is causing a crisis in Sweden.

> fire arm rate is 12X

Add explosives, hand grenades, kidnapping...

US does not have a big problem with organized crime!

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